[Vision2020] Vision2020 is No Place for Open-Minded People

[Art Deco]

No one should expect to be welcomed by everyone participating in a public
forum for at least two reasons:

1.  Public discourse on many issues is often a heated dispute, sometimes
wildly emotional, ego-driven, etc.  Enter public discourse at your own
risk, and if you have a thin skin or little taste for a bit combat, play
solitaire instead.

2.  Positions like the following and the persons holding them:

"The moon is made out of green cheese"
"Mental illness is caused by being possessed by demons."
"The Pope is infallible"
etc.

are crackpottery, and except for sport, are not worth the effort to respond
to except with derision.

Judd Wilson's eruption onto V2020 fits both those categories above.  And
his savior, Paul, even when prodded by cites of his self-adulating dicita
on reasoned discussion, failed to present any evidence that Wilson's
statements do not fit the 2nd category above even though Paul claimed that
they did.

And what a fine militiaman Judd Wilson would make, turning yellow and
running away at the first sign of unfriendly fire.  And running away
without even attempting to fire back by answering the questions posed to
him like what is his record of community building.

We shouldn't be surprised.  Christ Church Cult members turned tail and left
V2020 at least under their own names when they were consistently shown to
be fools.

But Paul is right about engaging certain reasonable people with opposing
views in constructive discussion.  Christ Church Cult members would be
barred from the internet if Cultmaster Douglas Wilson ever discovered the
results of private discussions which started here as public discussions
with cult apostates.

w.



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Hatred is a human emotion, Mr. Wilson; a human emotion we all possess
> (even you, as reflected on your website).
>
> Let me rephrase my statement . . .
>
> I do not hate you personally.  I hate the bigoted culture you so proudly
> display on your website.
>
> I choose not to tolerate such bigotry, Mr. Wilson, but to expose it. This
> I will do as long as I am humanly able.
>
> I have NEVER said that you are not accepted here on Vision 2020 and I
> never will.  Vision 2020 is a public forum in which we discuss topics that
> impact our neighborhoods, community, state, and nation.
>
> If you find my freely expressed opinion not to your liking, so be it.
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2013, at 8:39 AM, "Judd A. Wilson" <judd_allen_wilson at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> *Paul R - Great to meet another open-minded person in this town.  Cheers.*
> *Art Deco/Wayne - I don't disavow either Doug Wilson or Gresham Bouma.
> They're both good men.  *
> *Rosemary - It's a blog template.  I blog as a hobby when I have the
> time.  Don't read too much into my font selection.  And when I went to the
> council in December, I didn't ask them for an ordinance.  I asked them for
> the same treatment regarding hateful billboards that they'd afford other
> demographic groups, such as homosexuals.  I expect progressives/liberals to
> play by their own rules.  But they let me down then just as you have now.*
> *Tom - You supported an anti-discrimination ordinance because it
> supposedly does away with hatred and bigotry.  And yet you have openly
> stated that you hate me.  **When I was still young I realized that the
> belief, "I'm not prejudiced...except against people that are prejudiced,"
> didn't hold water.  You should reconsider.  **And I don't hate you, for
> the record, or anyone else on this forum.  Or anyone at all, anywhere.  But
> you've treated me so ill that it's clear I'm not tolerated, included, or
> accepted here.  With the exception of Paul, it's become clear that this
> isn't a forum for liberals or welcoming of Moscow community members at all.
>  *
> *As for my quote about young, white, American males: thanks for reading
> and sharing.  I stand by every word.*
> For more, go to:
> http://juddwilson.com/2013/04/04/freedom-of-conscience-is-the-foundation-of-a-free-society-civil-discourse-is-the-glue-that-holds-it-together-2/
>
> *Respectfully,*
> *Judd Wilson*
> *juddwilson.com *
>
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