[Vision2020] Tweets from the Cairo Embassy

Scott Dredge scooterd408 at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 12 20:11:50 PDT 2012


They find it 'OFFENSIVE!' Paul.  And then they go on a senseless murder spree defending their God or Prophet or their sister's honor or whatever else.  So then to Tom's other point about 'Are we to hold a person into account for their freedom of speech (albeit inappropriate)?' the answer is 'YES'.  People are held routinely held accountable for things that they say and they sometimes are subjected to things like demotions, job loss, dropped sponsors, boycotts, etc.  And they can even face criminal and / or civil prosecution.  It's happened many times before and will happen many times again.

-Scott


Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:36:44 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: thansen at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tweets from the Cairo Embassy

It's this one line I'm referencing:

"But when one's freedom of speech threatens another's freedom of religion, what is to be done?"

How was anyone's freedom of religion threatened?  How was anyone's right to practice their religion affected by this video?

Paul


        From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
 To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Nicholas Gier
 <ngier006 at gmail.com>; vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tweets from the Cairo Embassy
   
As a refresher, Mr. Rumelhart, here is my original posting in its entirety . . ,
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"The freedoms of religion and speech are the very cornerstones of our culture here in the Nifty Fifty (USA).
But when one's freedom of speech threatens another's freedom of religion, what is to be done?
Although the YouTube video, in question, seriously insulted a religious deity, consequently resulting in the murders of four Americans . .
 .
Are we to hold a person into account for their freedom of speech (albeit inappropriate)?"
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My reference, " . . . seriously insulted a religious deity, consequently resulting in the murders of four Americans . . . ", is supported and substantiated by virtually every news reporter (including Shepard Smith of Faux [Fox] News).
Another thing:  The last sentence in my posting, "Are we to hold a person into account for their freedom of speech (albeit inappropriate)?", is a question NOT a statement, as evidenced by its closing punctuation (a question mark).

Seeya round
 town, Moscow.
Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
On Sep 12, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

Are you saying that it could contain something so bad in the video that would lead me to believe that it's worth throwing out freedom of expression  for?  Because I highly doubt it.  I will take a peek at it tonight, though, if that makes you feel any better.

Or
 perhaps you could save me some trouble and point out exactly where in the video Freedom of Religion was threatened?  That way I'll know what to look for.

Paul


        From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
 To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Nicholas Gier <ngier006 at gmail.com>; vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tweets from the Cairo Embassy
   
Paul Rumelhart informs us:

"Criticism or satire or parody or whatever the YouTube video contained (haven't watched it) does not threaten anyone's freedom of religion."

So, here we have Paul Rumelhart passing on judgment about a video he admits that he hasn't watched.

Tell me, V-Peeps, what is wrong with his logic?

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college
 students.  The college students are not very
 active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)

On Sep 12, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Criticism or satire or parody or whatever the YouTube video contained (haven't watched it) does not threaten anyone's freedom of religion.


    

    
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