[Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 5 21:41:25 PDT 2012


"Hmmmm, lets see... whats more likely to get you killed? Driving into a high crime area unarmed, or pulling out your six-shooter and playing Marshall Dillon with the bad guys." --Ron Force
 
How could you not make this same fallacious argument for anyone not to own a gun?
 
 I think a person should be able to have a means of self-defense, not to protect cargo, but because they are a target for opportunity because of the cargo. Many people would kill or harm a person to get at multimillion dollar cargo. Truck drivers are easy victims because criminals know they are not allowed any kind of weapon. 
 
It takes only a few seconds to snip the air brakes and they cannot move their truck as the brakes lock the trailer down from moving, along with the truck. They are stuck and at the total mercy of whatever the criminals want to do to the driver and anyone else in the truck. Remember the Rodney King ruling riot, it was a truck driver that was beaten up, easy unarmed target. Had he a knife, taser gun, pepper spray, or even just a bat, he might of had the ability to deter his attackers.  
 
I might be wrong, but I don't see where the Second Amendment excludes interstate commercial drivers. 
 
Donovan J. Arnold

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Moscow Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy


Not just the likelihood of getting hurt. But the likelihood of hurting (even killing) innocent victims, as well.




On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:


Hmmmm, lets see... whats more likely to get you killed? Driving into a high crime area unarmed, or pulling out your six-shooter and playing Marshall Dillon with the bad guys. "Yes sir, this here cargo's so valuable, I'd give up my life for it." 
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>Stuff can be replaced (and it's probably insured). Lives can't.
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>Ron Force
>Moscow Idaho USA
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>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; Moscow Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 2:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy
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>Easy access to guns and limited access to mental health services don't mix. 
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>One complaint about gun laws right now is that commercial truck drivers, who live in their trucks, are banned from legally carrying any weapons for self defense. Many are also required for their job to drive into dangerous high crime areas with valuable cargo. 
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>Donovan J. Arnold
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>From: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>
>To: Moscow Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy
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>From Knute Berger:
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>...Unfortunately, many pro-gun legislators in Oly are also pushing more and more to cut government funding. The result is an increasingly armed populace and fewer resources to identify and treat people who are mentally ill and potentially violent. Ian Stawicki, who shot down his fellow Café Racer regulars and the mom at Town Hall, was known to be mentally unbalanced by his family and friends, and he had a domestic violence record. Yet he was well armed and untreated.
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>A democracy needs an educated citizenry. An uninformed society, James Madison said, leads to “farce or a tragedy.” But a heavily armed democracy must also have a commitment to sanity and humanity. It does little good to say the mentally ill can’t own firearms if you can’t identify who they are, if you can’t disarm them and if you don’t have the resources to treat them.
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>Failing to follow through with sane policy also contributes to tragedy, as we’re learning the hard way. 
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>http://crosscut.com/2012/09/05/mossback/110281/seattle-shooting-ian-stawicki-gun-control/ 
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>Ron Force
>Moscow Idaho USA
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