[Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy

Saundra Lund v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Wed Sep 5 20:37:39 PDT 2012


It really is beyond contemptible for you & your ilk to even think you have
any idea whatsoever of what Mr. Denny might wish.  Please tell us, Wayne:
how does it feel to use someone for your own purposes with absolutely no
regard for the truth?  And, if you’re so sure of yourself, why don’t you ask
him what his opinions are rather than forcing words down his throat?!

 

Oh, wait – maybe you & your ilk won’t ask him because you already know the
answer and would have to shut your yaps rather than continue to exploit the
tragedy Mr. Denny lived through.

 

Yeah, that’s what I thought . . . how honorable of you.

 

 

Saundra

 

It's a matter of taking the side if the weak against the strong, something
the best people have always done.

~ Harriet Beecher Stowe

 

 

 

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Wayne Price
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 6:56 PM
To: Ron Force
Cc: Moscow Vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy

 

Ron,

 

And do you want to bet that Reginald Denny wished he was armed or was he
better off unarmed?

 

>From TIME: 

 

"Taking a shortcut off the Santa Monica Freeway down Normandie Avenue was
nothing out of the ordinary for 33-year-old Reginald Denny. In the late
afternoon of April 29, 1992, he had simply loaded up his 18-wheeler and
headed down the road, driving for his employer Transit Mixed Concrete.
Little did he know that he would drive smack into the middle of an angry mob
looking for vengeance.

As his rig crossed Florence, a group of rioters enraged over the Rodney King
verdict rushed toward him, pulled him out of the cab and beat him to within
an inch of his life. The attack ended when
<http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/la_riot/article/0,28804,1614117_1614
084_1614510,00.html> Damian Monroe Williams took a cinderblock and bashed
Denny's skull, fracturing it in 91 places and causing severe brain damage."






 

 

Wayne

 

 

 

 

 

On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Ron Force wrote:





Hmmmm, lets see... whats more likely to get you killed? Driving into a high
crime area unarmed, or pulling out your six-shooter and playing Marshall
Dillon with the bad guys. "Yes sir, this here cargo's so valuable, I'd give
up my life for it." 

 

Stuff can be replaced (and it's probably insured). Lives can't.

 

Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA

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From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; Moscow Vision2020
<vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy

 

Easy access to guns and limited access to mental health services don't mix. 

 

One complaint about gun laws right now is that commercial truck drivers, who
live in their trucks, are banned from legally carrying any weapons for self
defense. Many are also required for their job to drive into dangerous high
crime areas with valuable cargo. 

 

Donovan J. Arnold

 

From: Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>
To: Moscow Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy

 

>From Knute Berger:

 

...Unfortunately, many pro-gun legislators in Oly are also pushing more and
more to cut government funding. The result is an increasingly armed populace
and fewer resources to identify and treat people who are mentally ill and
potentially violent. Ian Stawicki, who shot down his fellow Café Racer
regulars and the mom at Town Hall, was known to be mentally unbalanced by
his family and friends, and he had a domestic violence record. Yet he was
well armed and untreated.

A democracy needs an educated citizenry. An uninformed society, James
Madison said,  <http://classicliberal.tripod.com/madison/> leads to “farce
or a tragedy.” But a heavily armed democracy must also have a commitment to
sanity and humanity. It does little good to say the mentally ill can’t own
firearms if you can’t identify who they are, if you can’t disarm them and if
you don’t have the resources to treat them.

Failing to follow through with sane policy also contributes to tragedy, as
we’re learning the hard way. 

 

http://crosscut.com/2012/09/05/mossback/110281/seattle-shooting-ian-stawicki
-gun-control/ 

 

Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA

 


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