[Vision2020] [Spam 5.61] Re: Polls 'oversampling' Democrats?

Mon Nov 12 11:29:12 PST 2012

Hi Paul,

One of the election columns that I did not have time to write--and
still intend to--is entitled "Barack the Brave: 'W' on Steriods."  I
have collected a lot of notes for and against the drone attacks.  The
issue turns on whether or not the drone targets are legitimate
combatants in the undeclared war on terror.  I tend to say "No," but I
have to work through all the material first.

Earlier on in his presidency I wrote a column critical of Obama  (see
attached), and my vote for him on Nov. 6 was neither unconditional nor
unqualified. As I have already posted, the on-line political test you
recommended indicated that I should have voted for Jill Stein, and I
would have if we had a parliamentary system.  My stand against the
Patriot Act and for a carbon tax tipped me into the Stein camp.

There are many dangers confronting this nation, but the most immediate
one is the economic disaster that would have come from a Romney
administration.  I simply believe that for good people to vote Third
Party in states such as Ohio, Virginia, or Florida on the basis on one
issue only (albeit a significant one) is a mistake.  Nader votes in
Florida may have cost Gore the 2000 election and we could have been
saved from the disasters of the Iraq War and the Bush tax cuts.

Deep down I'm a pragmatist in economics and politics.

Nick

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nick wrote: "Thank you, voters, for saving our country,"
>
> I'll consider our country saved when (for a start) our President doesn't
> kill US citizens with drone strikes, when no one can be detained anymore
> indefinitely, and when our government can no longer tap it's own citizens
> communications at will without even cursory oversight by the FISA court.
>
> Until then (and after a few more on my list), I'll start to consider the
> country "saved".  Until then, it's the dictator you know vs. the dictator
> you don't know.
>
> Paul
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nicholas Gier <ngier006 at gmail.com>
> To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Spam 5.61] Re: Polls 'oversampling' Democrats?
>
> Good Morning Visionaries,
>
> With regard to the main theme of this thread (my, how we wander
> about!), I have to report that Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com is
> slipping a bit.  In 2010 he accurately projected big gains for the GOP
> in the House (so much for a bias!), and predicted the 2008 popular
> vote by .1 percent.
>
> This year he was .3 percent above the popular vote, 2-3 seats short on
> the Demo Senate, and 19 points shy of Obama's electoral count.  Again,
> so much for a Demo bias.
>
> The pollsters, all slammed by Faux News and the GOP, were right, and
> if anything, underestimated the Senate and Obama victories.  Not much
> we can do about a gerrymandered House, but the Dems made some gains
> there, too.  NBC is predicting a 5 seat gain for them.
>
> As the economy improves, I predict more gains in both House and Senate
> in 2014.  The GOP is dying on craggy vine of white male fears.
>
> Thank you, voters, for saving our country,
>
> Nick
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> A volunteer for Lyndon Johnson's US Senate campaign was spending a long
>> time
>> trying to read a name off an old tombstone. So another volunteer said to
>> him, "Why you wasting time? Go to the next tombstone." The man replied,
>> "No!, this man has as much right to vote as any other dead man in Texas."
>>
>> Donovan J. Arnold
>>
>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: Robert Dickow <dickow at turbonet.com>
>> Cc: Moscow Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Spam 5.61] Re: Polls 'oversampling' Democrats?
>>
>> You think you had it hard, BD?
>>
>> I was in charge of transportation to and from Memorial Gardens Cemetery!
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 12:37 PM, "Robert Dickow" <dickow at turbonet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ron, Whew! Yeah. It was a long hard day, what with putting on various
>> outfits and dying my hair several times, but I managed to cast  3,264
>> ballots over at the fair grounds. Worth it though, wasn’t it?
>>
>> Bob Dickow, troublemaker
>>
>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> On Behalf Of Ron Force
>> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:05 AM
>> To: Moscow Vision2020
>> Subject: [Spam 5.61] Re: [Vision2020] Polls 'oversampling' Democrats?
>>
>> As one commenter put it: "The election obviously oversampled Democrats".
>>
>> Ron Force
>> Moscow Idaho USA
>>
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