[Vision2020] Are the police tracking your calls?

Janesta janesta at gmail.com
Thu May 24 19:47:51 PDT 2012 

*laughing*
i remember that paper clip with eyes!

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Janesta, you asked, "Does anyone know of an email service that does not
> scan my email?"
>
> Now that you are mentioning it in your emails, maybe you will get an ad
> for one. Irony in your favor. Just be thankful you don't have paper clip
> with eyes dude asking if you need help with something every time you start
> to type. That was one paper clip I wanted to twist into a knot and send
> through the paper shredder.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
>   *From:* Janesta <janesta at gmail.com>
> *To:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> *Cc:* "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:12 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Are the police tracking your calls?
>
> I use gmail. When v2020 was discussing the oversize trucks going to
> Alberta, I was receiving ads for truck driving school.
>
> Now that our discussion is privacy issues, I just received an ad to apply
> to www.AMU.APUS.edu/Intelligence<http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=BD2tsdem-T-X2MNCCgAKXguXpAeHwjM0C-cyM3yPlzbTwA5CiYhABGAEgho-AAigGOABQ-O3-nvj_____AWDJvsmGxKPIF6ABs5Td_gOyAQ9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb226AQ5nbWFpbC1jdi1iZWxvd8gBAdoB_wFodHRwOi8vbWFpbC5nb29nbGUuY29tL01UUXdNamN3TnpFNE56ZzVOVFExTkRRMU9FbE9Wa2xUU1VKTVJURTBNREkzTWpZME1qRXlNREV4T0RVek1EWkRUMHhNUVZCVFJVUXhOREF5TnpjeU56azVOamMzT1RZd05qazFTVTVXU1ZOSlFreEZNVFF3TWpjNU16TXdOakUwTlRjd09UUXpNRWxPVmtsVFNVSk1SVEUwTURJM09UYzRNemd6TkRneU9EUXdOREpKVGxaSlUwbENURVV4TkRBeU9EQXlOREE0TlRBM09EQXdNakExU1U1V1NWTkpRa3hGTVRRd01qZ3fIArGApx-oAwHoAxPoAw3oA7oC9QMAAABE&num=1&sig=AOD64_0NTLmXWKifMmya9PrNqfBU785F3A&adurl=http://www.amu.apus.edu/lp2/intelligence/index.htm/%3Futm_source%3Dgoogle-amu%26utm_medium%3Dcpc%26utm_term%3Dcontent-targeting%26utm_campaign%3DCT%2520-%2520Intelligence>to get a CIA intelligence
> degree.
>
> All of this is creepy to me.
>
> Does anyone know of an email service that does not scan my email?
>
> Thanks,
> Janesta
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you.
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Paranoia . . . Self-destroya.
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> On May 24, 2012, at 18:00, Paul Rumelhart < <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Security, not just against police surveillance but against all forms of
> intrusion, is best served by a layered defense.  The first layer is the one
> you suggest - if you don't want it compromised, don't put it out there.
> There are other steps that can be taken, such as:
>
> - don't open attachments from strangers
> - don't run an email client that automatically runs attachments
> - don't tell your email client to run an attachment manually
> - keep up on your updates  for your OS, email client, browser, flash, and
> java
> - use a browser that doesn't run any attachments by default
> - turn off javascript or use something like NoScript to enable only the
> sites you trust
> - use an adblocker to keep advertisers from tracking you through image
> requests and to keep malware ads from doing harm
> - disable third-party cookies, or use an extension to manage them for you
> - use something like FlashBlock to keep flash advertisements from trying
> to track you
> - use a private VPN
> - use an OS like linux that isn't hacked as often
> - probably lots of others I'm forgetting at the moment
>
> I think of these things like common street smarts, but for the net.  You
> shouldn't click on an attachment any more than you should look that mean
> looking dude in the eye when you walk past him.  As a bonus, if you do
> these things you won't see most advertisements that are trying to distract
> you, and your browsing experience will be twice as fast because of all the
> javascript and images you are not downloading.  Just remember to donate
> to your favorite websites to make up for the loss of ad revenue, should you
> feel so inclined.
>
> Paul
>
> On 05/24/2012 02:02 PM, Ted Moffett wrote:
>
>
> "You already have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." 1 Sun MicrosystemsCEO Scott
> McNealy
>
> ----------------------------------------
> I assume anything I place on my computer, or send over the Internet, or
> any phone call I make anywhere, even from a public phone, is subject to
> potential surveillance.
>
> I am way far from super well educated on these complex issues, but from
> what I have gathered, encryption does not necessarily assure privacy, with
> key stroke loggers such as Magic Lantern.
>
> What if when you are not home, the FBI or government black-op operatives,
> or others from who knows where, break-in, with surveillance technology
> placed on your computer, that records or sends every keystroke?  Maybe
> there are safeguards against Magic Lantern or tampering directly with a
> computer to surveil it:
>
> Info on Magic Lantern:
>
>
> <https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab><https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab>
> https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&
> crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&
> srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab
>
> COMMENT: THE "MAGIC LANTERN" REVEALED: A REPORT OF THE FBI'S NEW "KEY
> LOGGING" TROJAN AND ANALYSIS OF ITS POSSIBLE TREATMENT IN A DYNAMIC LEGAL
> LANDSCAPE
>
> McNealy "You already have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." 1 Although
> this quip from Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy seems extreme, it
> strongly illustrates the current tension between the power of technology
> and an individual's expectation of privacy. 2 This tension creates an
> incessant struggle, because for power of surveillance technology to
> increase, privacy must decrease, and vice versa. These struggles are best
> illustrated through the Federal Government's attempts to maintain national
> security through surveillance of communications and activities while
> attempting to sustain the legitimate expectations of privacy in the
> American people. 3 One of the most recent developments resulting from
> this quandary is the FBI's new enigmatic surveillance tool - a "keystroke
> logger" Trojan horse/computer worm they have dubbed "Magic Lantern." 4
>
> ." 6 Historically, the FBI has been thwarted by certain
> counter-intelligence technologies, specifically encryption. 7 Magic
> Lantern would assist the FBI by recording the passwords used to
> encode/decode the encrypted messages, thereby permitting the Bureau to
> access the content of the otherwise indecipherable documents. 8 However,
> critics of the software raise serious concerns about the software's
> conflict ...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> The Carnivore program may be old fashioned, given the speed of computer
> technology advances, but it was major news, even discussed in the US
> Congress by tech savvy US Senator from Washington, Maria Cantwell, along
> with Magic Lantern, in questions to former US Attorney General Ashcroft:
>
> <http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/><http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/>
> http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/
>
> Info on Carnivore:
>
> Carnivore: US Government Surveillance
> of Internet Transmissions
>
> <http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html><http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html>
> http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From "Wired" magazine, a recent article on the NSA's spying expansion.
> Orwell rolls in his grave!
> The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
>
>    - By James Bamford<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/author/james-bamford/>
>    - Email Author <washwriter at gmail.com%3C/a%3E>
>    - March 15, 2012
>
> <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1><http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1>
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
>
> Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly
> named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A
> project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle
> assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher,
> analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap
> down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
> international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2
> billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through
> its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all
> forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails,
> cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal
> data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and
> other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of
> the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of
> the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after
> it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Art Deco < <art.deco.studios at gmail.com><art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
> art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good advice.  Do you have any recommendations for a VPN provider?
>
> w.
>
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