[Vision2020] Are the police tracking your calls?
Janesta
janesta at gmail.com
Thu May 24 19:46:40 PDT 2012
Tom,
I use Norton 360.
So far as where the CIA will send me? Someplace by the sea. *L*
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> It is my impression that this information being retrieved by outside
> agencies is NOT necessarily the product of some sort of covert email
> espionage as it is the product of digitized "cookies" (as they are called)
> that are purposely deposited into your computer to lightly monitor your
> email activity. This activity can be drastically reduced by installing
> effective anti-virus/Internet protection software.
>
> I protect my computers with Norton 360. Works great!
>
> Note to Janesta: Let me know where the CIA assigns you after you get your
> CDL, ok?
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> On May 24, 2012, at 19:12, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I use gmail. When v2020 was discussing the oversize trucks going to
> Alberta, I was receiving ads for truck driving school.
>
> Now that our discussion is privacy issues, I just received an ad to apply
> to
> <http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=BD2tsdem-T-X2MNCCgAKXguXpAeHwjM0C-cyM3yPlzbTwA5CiYhABGAEgho-AAigGOABQ-O3-nvj_____AWDJvsmGxKPIF6ABs5Td_gOyAQ9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb226AQ5nbWFpbC1jdi1iZWxvd8gBAdoB_wFodHRwOi8vbWFpbC5nb29nbGUuY29tL01UUXdNamN3TnpFNE56ZzVOVFExTkRRMU9FbE9Wa2xUU1VKTVJURTBNREkzTWpZME1qRXlNREV4T0RVek1EWkRUMHhNUVZCVFJVUXhOREF5TnpjeU56azVOamMzT1RZd05qazFTVTVXU1ZOSlFreEZNVFF3TWpjNU16TXdOakUwTlRjd09UUXpNRWxPVmtsVFNVSk1SVEUwTURJM09UYzRNemd6TkRneU9EUXdOREpKVGxaSlUwbENURVV4TkRBeU9EQXlOREE0TlRBM09EQXdNakExU1U1V1NWTkpRa3hGTVRRd01qZ3fIArGApx-oAwHoAxPoAw3oA7oC9QMAAABE&num=1&sig=AOD64_0NTLmXWKifMmya9PrNqfBU785F3A&adurl=http://www.amu.apus.edu/lp2/intelligence/index.htm/%3Futm_source%3Dgoogle-amu%26utm_medium%3Dcpc%26utm_term%3Dcontent-targeting%26utm_campaign%3DCT%2520-%2520Intelligence>
> www.AMU.APUS.edu/Intelligence to get a CIA intelligence degree.
>
> All of this is creepy to me.
>
> Does anyone know of an email service that does not scan my email?
>
> Thanks,
> Janesta
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Tom Hansen < <thansen at moscow.com>
> thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you.
>> <image.jpeg>
>>
>> Paranoia . . . Self-destroya.
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "If not us, who?
>> If not now, when?"
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2012, at 18:00, Paul Rumelhart < <godshatter at yahoo.com><godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Security, not just against police surveillance but against all forms of
>> intrusion, is best served by a layered defense. The first layer is the one
>> you suggest - if you don't want it compromised, don't put it out there.
>> There are other steps that can be taken, such as:
>>
>> - don't open attachments from strangers
>> - don't run an email client that automatically runs attachments
>> - don't tell your email client to run an attachment manually
>> - keep up on your updates for your OS, email client, browser, flash, and
>> java
>> - use a browser that doesn't run any attachments by default
>> - turn off javascript or use something like NoScript to enable only the
>> sites you trust
>> - use an adblocker to keep advertisers from tracking you through image
>> requests and to keep malware ads from doing harm
>> - disable third-party cookies, or use an extension to manage them for you
>> - use something like FlashBlock to keep flash advertisements from trying
>> to track you
>> - use a private VPN
>> - use an OS like linux that isn't hacked as often
>> - probably lots of others I'm forgetting at the moment
>>
>> I think of these things like common street smarts, but for the net. You
>> shouldn't click on an attachment any more than you should look that mean
>> looking dude in the eye when you walk past him. As a bonus, if you do
>> these things you won't see most advertisements that are trying to distract
>> you, and your browsing experience will be twice as fast because of all the
>> javascript and images you are not downloading. Just remember to donate to
>> your favorite websites to make up for the loss of ad revenue, should you
>> feel so inclined.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 05/24/2012 02:02 PM, Ted Moffett wrote:
>>
>>
>> "You already have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." 1 Sun Microsystems
>> CEO Scott McNealy
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> I assume anything I place on my computer, or send over the Internet, or
>> any phone call I make anywhere, even from a public phone, is subject to
>> potential surveillance.
>>
>> I am way far from super well educated on these complex issues, but from
>> what I have gathered, encryption does not necessarily assure privacy, with
>> key stroke loggers such as Magic Lantern.
>>
>> What if when you are not home, the FBI or government black-op operatives,
>> or others from who knows where, break-in, with surveillance technology
>> placed on your computer, that records or sends every keystroke? Maybe
>> there are safeguards against Magic Lantern or tampering directly with a
>> computer to surveil it:
>>
>> Info on Magic Lantern:
>>
>> <https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab><https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab><https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab>
>> https://litigation-essentials.lexisnexis.com/webcd/app?action=DocumentDisplay&crawlid=1&doctype=cite&docid=20+J.+Marshall+J.+Computer+%26+Info.+L.+287&srctype=smi&srcid=3B15&key=3addc849b1738f1c82c98f8bd294a0ab
>>
>> COMMENT: THE "MAGIC LANTERN" REVEALED: A REPORT OF THE FBI'S NEW "KEY
>> LOGGING" TROJAN AND ANALYSIS OF ITS POSSIBLE TREATMENT IN A DYNAMIC LEGAL
>> LANDSCAPE
>>
>> McNealy "You already have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." 1 Although
>> this quip from Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy seems extreme, it
>> strongly illustrates the current tension between the power of technology
>> and an individual's expectation of privacy. 2 This tension creates an
>> incessant struggle, because for power of surveillance technology to
>> increase, privacy must decrease, and vice versa. These struggles are best
>> illustrated through the Federal Government's attempts to maintain national
>> security through surveillance of communications and activities while
>> attempting to sustain the legitimate expectations of privacy in the
>> American people. 3 One of the most recent developments resulting from
>> this quandary is the FBI's new enigmatic surveillance tool - a "keystroke
>> logger" Trojan horse/computer worm they have dubbed "Magic Lantern." 4
>>
>> ." 6 Historically, the FBI has been thwarted by certain
>> counter-intelligence technologies, specifically encryption. 7 Magic
>> Lantern would assist the FBI by recording the passwords used to
>> encode/decode the encrypted messages, thereby permitting the Bureau to
>> access the content of the otherwise indecipherable documents. 8 However,
>> critics of the software raise serious concerns about the software's
>> conflict ...
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>> The Carnivore program may be old fashioned, given the speed of computer
>> technology advances, but it was major news, even discussed in the US
>> Congress by tech savvy US Senator from Washington, Maria Cantwell, along
>> with Magic Lantern, in questions to former US Attorney General Ashcroft:
>>
>> <http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/><http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/><http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/>
>> http://www.salon.com/2001/12/08/ashcroft_15/
>>
>> Info on Carnivore:
>>
>> Carnivore: US Government Surveillance
>> of Internet Transmissions
>>
>> <http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html><http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html><http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html>
>> http://www.vjolt.net/vol6/issue2/v6i2-a10-Jennings.html
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From "Wired" magazine, a recent article on the NSA's spying expansion.
>> Orwell rolls in his grave!
>> The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
>>
>> - By James Bamford<http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/author/james-bamford/>
>> - Email Author <washwriter at gmail.com%3C/a%3E>
>> - March 15, 2012
>>
>> <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1><http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1><http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1>
>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
>>
>> Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly
>> named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A
>> project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle
>> assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher,
>> analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap
>> down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
>> international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2
>> billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through
>> its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all
>> forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails,
>> cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal
>> data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and
>> other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of
>> the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of
>> the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after
>> it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Art Deco < <art.deco.studios at gmail.com><art.deco.studios at gmail.com><art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
>> art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good advice. Do you have any recommendations for a VPN provider?
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