[Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Thu May 24 09:45:36 PDT 2012
I couldn't locate anything concerning Idaho's "frequenting" law, but I did find this concerning Oregon . . .
Courtesy of "US Legal" at:
http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/frequenting/
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ORS § 167.222 dealing with offenses involving controlled substances states:
(1) A person commits the offense of frequenting a place where controlled substances are used if the person keeps, maintains, frequents, or remains at a place, while knowingly permitting persons to use controlled substances in such place or to keep or sell them in violation of ORS 475.005 to 475.285 and 475.840 to 475.980.
(2) Frequenting a place where controlled substances are used is a Class A misdemeanor.
(3) Notwithstanding subsection (2) of this section, if the conviction is for knowingly maintaining, frequenting or remaining at a place where less than one avoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems, and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae is found at the time of the offense under this section, frequenting a place where controlled substances are used is a Class D violation.
(4) As used in this section, "frequents" means repeatedly or habitually visits, goes to or resorts to.
Examples of some statutes on Oregon using the term Frequenting
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Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"
- Unknown
On May 24, 2012, at 9:17, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Could one be in trouble just by walking onto the WSU or UI campus?
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I haven't read the actual law, but based on the wording "frequenting a place
>> where [illegal] drugs are used", you could be arrested for being at a
>> friends house if he or she has ever smoked a joint there in the past.
>>
>> Imagine the idea behind this law were common place. You could be pulled
>> over for driving on a road where other motorists are speeding or cited for
>> "frequenting an area where jaywalking occurs".
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> To:
>> Cc: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:32 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
>>
>> So let's say you are at a friend's place, you're drinking a beer. Your
>> friend lights up a joint. You don't leave, you just stay there and keep
>> watching the football game. You never touch the joint, you decline politely
>> when your friend offers it to you.
>>
>> Now somehow the police show up. They charge your friend with possession of
>> weed, and they charge you with frequenting.
>>
>> You support that? Seriously? Do you also support our War on Drugs?
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>> ________________________________
>> CC: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:48:44 -0700
>> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
>>
>> It is really quite simple.
>>
>> I support the criminal charge of "frequenting a place where [illegal] drugs
>> are used."
>>
>> I simply do not believe that marijuana should be considered an illegal drug.
>>
>> I believe that the term "illegal" is implicit in the charge, otherwise
>> police would be staking out such facilities as Gritman Medical Center,
>> Moscow Family Medicine, and other "place[s] where drugs are used."
>>
>> Oops. I almost added the Moscow Fire Department to that list.
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "If not us, who?
>> If not now, when?"
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 23, 2012, at 0:06, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sunil,
>>
>> Yes, it does sound like his position is, "It is ok to smoke MJ, just not to
>> be hanging around while someone else is smoking it." Doesn't sound logical
>> or sound reasoning to me, I am sure he didn't think about it.
>>
>> I just think they need to end prohibition on MJ, it isn't working and just
>> funds violent crime. All that violence and mass murders in Mexico is the
>> result of making MJ illegal. If it was rich white people instead of poor
>> Mexicans getting their heads chopped off they wouldn't be ignoring the
>> situation like they are now. It is racism in its purist form.
>>
>> Donovan J. Arnold
>>
>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> To: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> While I understand and agree with your sentiments here, I cannot square them
>> with your support last week of the nature of the frequenting charge. I hope
>> you mis-spoke when you took that position, or perhaps had not thought it
>> through.
>>
>> After all, if you don't think the individuals below should be charged, why
>> would you want someone present in the same place as the marijuana to be
>> charged?
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>> From: moscowcares at moscow.com
>> Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:20:56 -0700
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
>>
>> Courtesy of the "Public Records" section of today's (May 21, 2012)
>> Mocow-Pullman Daily News.
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> WSU POLICE
>> Thursday
>> 7:30 a.m. - An 18-year-old man was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
>> alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
>> 8:27 a.m. - An 18-year-old man was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
>> alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
>> 10:07 a.m. - An 18-year-old woman was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
>> alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> Two questions, V-Peeps . . .
>>
>> - How much ya figger it's costin' the Whitman County tax payers to arrest,
>> prosecute, and incarcerate these three misdemeanants?
>>
>> - How much tax revenue ya figger that the state of Washington would have
>> realized had those (approximately) 120 grams of marijuana been legalized,
>> regulated, and taxed?
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "If not us, who?
>> If not now, when?"
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
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