[Vision2020] NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.

[Donovan Arnold]

Viva,
 
You are 100% correct. It doesn't prevent fraud, and it wouldn't even if there was fraud to prevent. Republicans are doing this to remove a legitimate block of Democratic voters. Preventing fraud is just the spin line to disguise their true intentions. 
 
It does impact elections though. Most of the people that would be unable to get a Voter ID that should be able to vote would be the poor, less educated, people with mobility issues, and persons of age. The super-majority of these people generally vote Democrat. So this could knock maybe one percent of the population out of elections givng Republicans an upper hand in elections, and many elections do come to about 1% difference. 
 
I think Voter ID would create an easier opportunity as well for someone that wanted to vote by simply getting a fake ID saying they are over 18 with an address in the precinct they are trying to vote. I also must ask, who was going to train the poll volunteers to recognize real from fake IDs and what do they do if they aren't sure? What if the person doesn't look like their photo ID? I sure as hell don't as I sure many others don't either. There is also the problem with something being wrong with their ID that keeps them out, like a misspelled name, birth date, expiration date, address change, damage to the card, and their inability to afford or a get a replacement card in time if lost between the every four years they vote. 
 
Donovan Arnold

From: viva stowell <vivastowell at gmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.


I was just thinking 
about how a voter ID would not stop someone from voting multiple times

If you are registered in multiple sates, and there are places back east that you could make a day of it and vote in many states
As long as you had previously lived and registered in each and showed your Passport (the ultimate ID)
You could vote multiple times

So WHO would do this?
In order to actually effect the election, you would need many to do this
Even imagining someone doing this seems like a joke.

Most people don't vote once
How many people would have to vote twice to actually effect the election?

all this reminded me of a story I heard about...

http://blog.itv.com/news/billneely/2012/03/how-about-this-for-a-landslide/ 

HOW ABOUT THIS FOR A LANDSLIDE?Posted by Bill Neely. 6 March, 2012 
So,Vladimir Putin won a landslide. This is normally defined as an overwhelming margin of victory over your nearest political rival- say,65 to 35.
But here are the results from Chechnya, a Russian Republic.
These are the real number of votes cast, not percentages.
Putin got 611,578. His nearest rival the former Communist leader Gennady Zyuganov got 182. The three others got even less than that.
What that gave Putin is a thumping majority- a 99.82% share of the vote.
A fine win.
It’s remarkable, because Putin attacked Chechnya twice in appallingly brutal wars with its separatists, wars marked by massacre and murder. All that is clearly blood under the carpet.
The turnout was interesting too.
For example, look at Precinct 451 in the capital Grozny,where Putin got 1,482 votes and Zyuganov got one. Terrific vote. Except that only 1,389 people were registered to vote in the precinct. That means the turnout was 107%.
Chechnya is a place where fraud and corruption is rampant. Challenging powerful local men (and they are all men) might be the last thing an election official does. Independent and foreign election observers did not go to Chechnya for security reasons.
Obviously it’s a blatant example of electoral fraud. But it’s not so unusual. It’s clear many provincial officials and governors felt under huge pressure to return Putin to power. Election officials clearly turned a blind eye when a large group of men in leather jackets suddenly gathered around a ballot box with a thick sheaf of marked papers.
And so Chechnya,and Dagestan and many other places recorded votes of over 90% for Putin.
And since Chechnya is so extraordinary here’s another district; the votes for Naurskaya are…Zhirinovsky 4 votes, Zyuganov 6, Prokhorov 6, Mironov 7, Putin 28,584.
So,what is that word for something beyond a landslide?
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All this makes our election woes seem meaningless

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