[Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable CareAct(Obamacare) . . .

[Joe Campbell]

1/ How did he gain votes? Who are the folks who were not voting for Romney before but are voting for him now?

2/ Certainly, you'd be writing that Romney gained votes if the Supremes found the healthcare plan unconstitutional. So the view is he was destined to gain votes today no matter how the decision turned out?!?

3/ Keep in mind that Romney himself was in favor of a similar healthcare proposal paid for by tax dollars. He's going to have a difficult time putting forth the spin most conservatives are giving today.

4/ How is Obama a liar? He just had a different view on how the healthcare plan should be implemented. Are the conservative members of the court, who disagreed with the verdict in other ways, liars as well?

5/ Why are some conservatives unwilling to compromise on anything? First the charge was the plan was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court, which has grown increasingly conservative, says that ain't so. So immediately they disagree with it for other reasons. These my-way-or-the-highway tactics are unhelpful. At some point these conservatives are going to have to give a little if we're ever going to solve our problems.

6/ Universal healthcare is not only humane but a cost benefit to EVERYONE. I still don't see what the downside is other than that it was the idea of a Democrat -- well after Romney thought of it first!

On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:45 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> If Romney gained (most likely) or lost votes (EXTREMELY doubtful) today may be a matter for discussion but one thing is dead sure, the conservative base has a new found stiffness. The tea party will
> rally strong to the cause as any lingering doubts are brushed away and I would be willing to bet that way more than a few Ron Paul supporters come on board with a vengeance as well. People hate it when you lie to their faces.
> 
> I envision an endless parade of campaign ads in which BHO earnestly corrects George Stephanopoulos for his mischaracterization of obamacare as a new tax.
> 
> Looks as though Rep. Joe Wilson had it right after all....
> 
> g
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> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:04 PM
> To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable CareAct(Obamacare) . . .
> 
>> Let's put it this way: if it were shown unconstitutional you'd be saying Obama's chances would have decreased. But by any measure, he won this battle. And now you're saying that is a bad thing?!? Sorry but Romney did not gain votes today and he is worse off than he was yesterday. Joe
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>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:54 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
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>>> He vary well may win, however with only  a third of the voters in favor of Obamacare his chances are reduced. Today after the vote and Romney's statement that he wanted it repealed, he received several million  in new contributions.
>>> Roger
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:37:14 -0700
>>> To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act(Obamacare) . . .
>>> 
>>>> My prediction: Obama wins in 2012.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>> . . . has been upheld by the Supreme Court by a vote of 5-4.
>>>>> 
>>>>> More to follow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>> 
>>>>> "If not us, who?
>>>>> If not now, when?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Unknown
>>>>> 
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