[Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

Gary Crabtree moscowlocksmith at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 11:03:28 PDT 2012


Acerbically opines the matriarch of the aforementioned usual suspects.

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On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
> wrote:

> Or, scrutiny of a rather ugly example of Betrug from the usual
> perpetrators.****
>
> Rose Huskey****
>
> ** **
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary Crabtree
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:58 AM
> *To:* Sunil Ramalingam
> *Cc:* vision 2020
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
> Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)****
>
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>
> One can't help but think that this entire subject line comes down to a
> rather ugly example of schadenfreude from the usual subjects.****
>
>  ****
>
> g****
>
>  ****
>
> ooh ooh ooh, can I say who they are boss? Can I? Huh, huh, can I?****
>
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> *From:* Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> ****
>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 10:38 PM****
>
> *Cc:* vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> ****
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
> Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)****
>
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>
> Tom,
>
> Yes, there are either criminal or civil cases in our legal system. I just
> don't know what claim you think Paul would have against you; I can't think
> of anything. Granted, I'm not trying very hard, but I doubt he has any
> reason based on this exchange.
>
> And I too wondered why you posted Hoffman's information here.
>
> Sunil****
> ------------------------------
>
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:49:14 -0700
> To: godshatter at yahoo.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
> Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)****
>
> I was not referring to a criminal complaint.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> There are two litigious "roads" in the Nifty Fifty (USA); one marked
> "criminal" and one marked "civil".  Right, Sunil?****
>
> ** **
>
> To heck with it!  I am truly beginning to tire of your 6-year-old antics
> of responding to every posted explanation with your infantile "why".****
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom Hansen****
>
> Moscow, Idaho****
>
> ** **
>
> "If not us, who?****
>
> If not now, when?"****
>
> ** **
>
> - Unknown****
>
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>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:36, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:***
> *
>
>
> I never said I thought it was illegal, just not very nice.
>
> Paul
>
> On 06/25/2012 06:25 PM, Moscow Cares wrote:****
>
> Mr. Rumelhart -****
>
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>
> You certainly spend an inordinate amount of time on. Topic of which you
> claim that you have no interest.****
>
> ** **
>
> Furthermore, and FINALLY, if you feel that I am invading somebody's
> privacy, I suggest that you grow the proverbial "pair" and file a complaint.
> ****
>
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>
> 'Till then, I suggest you buckle up and hold on . . . ****
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom Hansen****
>
> Moscow, Idaho****
>
> ** **
>
> "If not us, who?****
>
> If not now, when?"****
>
> ** **
>
> - Unknown****
>
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>
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>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:01, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:***
> *
>
>
> You've spent a lot of time denigrating my character, yet I'm not the one
> posting someone's address on this list.  You've also spent a fair amount of
> time guessing my views on this subject, but have fallen far from the mark.
> I don't have an opinion about this case, because it's simply a contract
> dispute.  You don't know who is right and who is wrong, and neither do I.
> Nor do I really care.  I just don't like to see someone's address posted as
> a sly sort of "this is where he lives, if you want to talk to him, he's at
> this address".  People should be able to feel secure in their own homes
> without complete strangers confronting them about a private matter.  This
> used to be considered unethical on this site, but that appears to be true
> only when they aren't somehow connected to Doug.
>
> But, whatever.  It's been posted and the toothpaste can't be put back in
> the tube.  I'd just like to naively suggest that folks leave this guy in
> peace.  People who don't belong to this lawsuit don't have any reason to
> confront this guy, and people involved in this lawsuit will hopefully have
> been briefed by their lawyer not to do so.
>
> Paul
>
> On 06/25/2012 05:41 PM, Art Deco wrote:****
>
> Well Paul, let's make a guess.  You have been taking instruction from
> "regular guy" (and deadbeat) Douglas Wilson entitled "Logic Without
> Imagination" or something similar.
>
> Just because someone would like a little face time with Hoffmann does not
> mean they want to bully him or beat him up.  Of course without imagination,
> it is difficult for you to think of other alternatives.  You might try it
> as an exercise in Non-Wilsonian Logic.
>
> Also the lack of imagination traps into restricting the interested parties
> to V2020 members.  That is not so by a long shot.  Items from v2020 are
> frequently forwarded to non-members, and in Hoffmann's case, probably some
> of this forwards go to Bend and Redmond, Oregon.
>
> You appear to have either no enterprise values and/or completely ignorant
> of the milieu of which the Germer deadbeat action is a bit of.  I doubt
> that anyone on the list wishes to take the time and effort to let you in on
> the big non-secrets given your past actions as an ardent apologist for
> Wilson.
>
> I had thought that we would be chastised by Gary Crabtree, But so far,
> not.  But whatever other views Crabtree may have, he is a believer in
> enterprise and a businessman who provides and warrants his goods and
> services and expects to be paid promptly for them.  Hence it is not
> unreasonable to assume that he also abhors deadbeats.  It is highly
> probable that Crabtree also knows Larry Germer and would not be adverse to
> hearing his side of the story directly from him.
>
> w.****
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Glad to hear it.  What was your intent?****
>
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>
> Paul****
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>****
>
> *To:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com" <
> vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 4:06 PM ****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
> Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)****
>
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>
> I really don't feel it necessary to explain to Mr. Rumelhart that my
> intention was neither bullying nor to encourage physical confrontation.***
> *
>
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> 'Nuff said.****
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom Hansen****
>
> Moscow, Idaho****
>
> ** **
>
> "If not us, who?****
>
> If not now, when?"****
>
> ** **
>
> - Unknown****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
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>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 15:57, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:***
> *
>
> Is that why Mr. Hansen posted his address?  So people on this list could
> find him and confront him physically?****
>
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>
> No thank you.****
>
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>
> Let the courts work it out and leave the 5th grade bullying behind.  It's
> a private matter between two companies.****
>
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>
> I swear, any mention of Doug Wilson or Christ Church and you guys leave
> your common sense locked in a drawer somewhere.****
>
> ** **
>
> Paul****
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 3:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v.
> Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)****
>
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>
> @Paul:
>
> Sorry to report neither the world nor v2020 revolves around you.  However,
> there is a strong probability that a number of people or their agents would
> like a little face time with Hoffman.
>
> w.****
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:***
> *
>
> Paul Rumelhart inquires:****
>
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> "Now that you've posted this gentleman's address on this list, what is it
> that you would like me to do with this information?"****
>
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> Can I tell him what to with it, Wayne?  Huh?  Can I?  Can I?****
>
> ** **
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom Hansen****
>
> Moscow, Idaho****
>
> ** **
>
> "If not us, who?****
>
> If not now, when?"****
>
> ** **
>
> - Unknown****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 14:01, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:***
> *
>
> Now that you've posted this gentleman's address on this list, what is it
> that you would like me to do with this information?****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> art.deco.studios at gmail.com
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