[Vision2020] Does Obama Deserve Another 4 years?

Sun Jul 29 22:40:18 PDT 2012

My feeling is that Obama will get re-elected barring a spectacular disaster a la the Lehman collapse 3 weeks or so before the last presidential election.  Looking back, I think the Reagan model of a presidency works OK - except for the deep borrowing and spending.  But I like the idea of getting some Hollywood actor who can look and act the part on a world class level.  Maybe someone like Robert Downey Jr who, along with some good speech writers, can connect with the electorate and also push everything through Congress with a schpeel that works magic every time like Reagan's 'Win One for the Gipper' that never failed.

Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:52:48 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Does Obama Deserve Another 4 years?

I don't think so. But I think he will get it. And I will probably vote for him as there are no better choices on the ballot.

Joe writes, "Does it matter who we elect? It seems as if the future president is
going to run the country as if he were an idiot no matter who we elect."

The President doesn't run the country as though he is an idiot. He runs the country as though we are all idiots. The President mostly preforms the actions that large corporations want done as do most US Senators and members of US Congress. The President is elected indirectly by the people. We buy something and the corporations decide who will be on the ballot for us to vote for, but it doesn't matter which person we choose because they will all do what is in the corporations best interest. The only difference between the presidents is image and style, not policy. 

Donovan J. Arnold

From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
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Cc: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Two Scariest Words That Could EVER Be Spoken Together . . .

Scott,

I disagree that Obama does very little. In foreign policy he has continued the Bush-Cheney policies, killing people all over the middle east and into Africa. He has protected Bush's torturers. He's continued Bush's Wall Street bailout. 

I disagree with what he's done in those areas, but I can't say he hasn't done anything. I can say that he hasn't done much that I like, and he's done much that I despise.

Sunil

From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
CC: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Two Scariest Words That Could EVER Be Spoken Together . . .
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:51:25 -0600

It matters who's president if you have someone like Bush who did whatever he wanted.  He didn't care what anyone thought of him.  Obama does very little and I'm guessing Romney would be just as worthless.  'President Romney' doesn't scare me any more or less than 'President Obama'.  I'd rather see this election go down as a tie and then redo it again with two new better candidates.

> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:46:28 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Two Scariest Words That Could EVER Be Spoken Together . . .
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> 
> Which brings us to the question: Does it make a difference? Does it
> matter who is president? The whole Obama experience makes me think
> "no."
> 
> In terms of foreign policy (and especially war policy, as Sunil has
> pointed out), negative impact on individual rights (as Paul and others
> have pointed out), and positive impact on the economy, Obama has been
> just as bad as Bush was. If you originally voted for Obama over Bush
> for any of these reasons, you have no reason to vote for Obama any
> more. Nor do you have any reason to vote
 for Romney.
> 
> Does it matter who we elect? It seems as if the future president is
> going to run the country as if he were an idiot no matter who we
> elect. Joe
> 
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think anything makes him think Romney would be less ineffective than
> > Obama; I'm guessing he has things that make him think Romney would be more
> > ineffective than Obama.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
> > To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:43:18 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Two Scariest Words That Could EVER Be Spoken
> > Together . . .
> >
> > What makes you think that Romney would be any less
 ineffective as president
> > than Obama already is?
> >
> >> From: thansen at moscow.com
> >> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:41:22 -0700
> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> Subject: [Vision2020] The Two Scariest Words That Could EVER Be Spoken
> >> Together . . .
> >>
> >> "President Romney"
> >>
> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>
> >> Tom Hansen
> >> Moscow, Idaho
> >>
> >> "If not us, who?
> >> If not now, when?"
> >>
> >> - Unknown
> >>
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