[Vision2020] Note to Donovan: Here's some convincing testament.

[Art Deco]

Donovan,

In a nutshell, there are many who claim to have experiences with various
and assorted God(s) and/or Goddess(es).

The problem is basically that most of these experiences are contradictory
in some way to the others.  Most are very vague, ambiguous, or
unidentifiable feelings.  Some of the vivid ones are most likely
hallucinations -- for example, periods of fasting can produce
hallucinations of various kinds, the subject of which is usually what was
generally on the mind of importance of the hallucinator just prior to the
hallucination.

A little Googling can lead to much evidence about the relationship of
fasting and hallucinations.  A lot of it has to due with the acute shortage
of glucose reaching parts of the brain.

I also refer you to the *The Varieties of Religious Experience* I mentioned
earlier.

W.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> I think it is unfortunate that Zimmerman made those comments. No doubt
> they were very hurtful and not comforting to a family and community
> dealing with this major tragedy. However, I don't see how this reduces
> the possibility of the existence of a God or Gods. It would also seem to
> increase the possibility, as all of the people in the story, having
> nothing much in common, indicated they believed in a God. They all came
> from different backgrounds, of different races, faiths, gender,
> education, and age. Not many things that are not true can be found in
> every culture, age, race, time, nation, and both genders. If there is a lot
> of smoke everywhere, chances are there is fire somewhere.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
>   *From:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:05 PM
>
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Note to Donovan: Here's some convincing testament.
>
>     Print<http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/19/zimmerman-says-sorry-trayvon-martin-family-had-to-bury-their-child-family-calls/print#>
> Close<http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/19/zimmerman-says-sorry-trayvon-martin-family-had-to-bury-their-child-family-calls/print#>
> Zimmerman says he's sorry Trayvon Martin's family had to bury their
> child; family calls apology insincere
> Published July 19, 2012
> | FoxNews.com <http://foxnews.com/>
>  advertisement
> George Zimmerman, in an interview Wednesday with Fox News' Sean Hannity,
> called the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin a "tragic
> situation" and "the most difficult thing I'll ever go through in my life."
> The volunteer neighborhood watch leader spoke about details of the
> shooting, said he's sorry that Martin’s mother and father had to bury their
> child and, when asked if he regrets anything that happened that February
> night, he said, "No."
> *"I feel that it was all God's plan, and for me to second guess it or
> judge it," Zimmerman shook his head.*
> *Martin's mother and father watched the interview and appeared on "Fox &
> Friends" Thursday morning. His mother and father both said Zimmerman's
> apology appeared insincere and were troubled that the man accused of
> killing their son considered it all "God’s plan."*
> *"I don't understand what he was thinking by saying it was God's plan
> that he murdered our child," Tracy Martin, the teen’s father said. "I
> really don’t understand what God he worships because it’s not the same God
> that I worship."*
> *Sabrina Fulton, Martin’s mother, also appeared angered by the comment.*
> *"Why would God have him kill an unarmed teenager?" she asked. "It makes
> no sense."*
> During the interview with Hannity, Zimmerman said he followed Martin
> because he looked suspicious running between houses in the rain.
> Martin turned to confront Zimmerman and "asked me what my problem was"
> before the exchange escalated into violence, Zimmerman told Hannity in
> his first TV interview, conducted in an undisclosed location in Florida.
> The 28-year-old, with his attorney sitting by his side, said he reached
> into his pocket to find his phone to call 911 for a second time, and "I
> looked up and he punched me and broke my nose."
> At one point Zimmerman said he heard Martin "telling me he’s going to kill
> me."
> Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder for shooting and killing
> 17-year-old Martin on Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., though he says he acted in
> self-defense. At first, "I didn't think I hit him," Zimmerman said, adding
> he only found out later that Martin had died.
> Now he is in hiding and said he feels his life is in jeopardy, based on
> death threats he has received. He told Fox News that on the night of the
> shooting he had gone out to shop at Target -- "that's the last time I've
> been home."
> The case drew intense national attention as speculation grew about the
> motives for the shooting, especially given that Martin was black. Zimmerman
> has white and Hispanic heritage.
> He dismissed suggestions by some that he acted out of racism.
> "I don't think it's fair that they rushed to judgment to assume that," he
> told Fox News.
> Police initially declined to press charges, citing Florida's so-called
> "Stand Your Ground" law. But a special prosecutor who was called in to
> investigate concluded that the evidence didn't support Zimmerman's claims,
> and the murder charge was filed.
> When asked what he would say to Martin's parents, Zimmerman said, "I would
> tell them that, again, I'm sorry."
> "My wife and I don’t have any children," Zimmerman told Hannity. "I have
> nephews that I love more than life. I love them more than myself. And I
> know when they were born, it was a different unique bond and love that I
> have with them. And I love my children even though that they aren’t born
> yet.
> "I am sorry that they buried their child. I can’t imagine what it must
> feel like. I pray for them daily."
> Zimmerman, who is free on bond in Florida while awaiting trial, has
> pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder.
> Hannity had spoke with Zimmerman, 28, off the record in April when he
> contacted Hannity against the advice of his attorneys. Both Hannity and
> Zimmerman denied claims that Hannity offered the murder suspect any
> financial assistance or payment.
> The interview concluded with Zimmerman looking into the camera and saying
> that he wishes the night hadn't ended in Martin's death.
> "I do want to tell everyone, my wife, my family, my parents, my
> grandmother, the Martins, the city of Sanford and America that I'm sorry
> that this happened," he said. "I hate to think that because of this
> incident, because my actions, it's polarized and divided American. And I'm
> truly sorry."
>
>
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