[Vision2020] About Evidence

Scott Dredge scooterd408 at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 17 22:55:57 PDT 2012


*Like* as well.  No offense taken of course.  At most I think my belief system is <decline to state>.  I think it should really just not matter to anyone other than myself even though this frustrates to no end some now rifted friends that I have who are hell bent on 'saving souls'.

Are we done with this whole thread of 'your religion is better than mine'? If not, can I simply just concede that Atheism is better than Theism?  Otherwise, I just get the sinking feeling that we'll go round and around in circles with no end in sight on this topic.

-Scott

> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:35:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] About Evidence
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: chasuk at gmail.com
> CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> 
> *Like*
> 
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You either believe in the supernatural, or you don't. If you believe
> > in the supernatural, you either believe that it is part of the the
> > "whole show," or you don't. You might be a pantheist, or you might
> > not. Maybe you believe in a personal god or Gods, or maybe you don't.
> > Maybe you are a deist. Maybe you believe that everything is an
> > illusion. I don't know what you specifically believe, and -- no
> > offense -- I'm not interested. However, outside of a few categories --
> > and I'm not claiming to have included every category -- human belief
> > systems are only unique in the same sense that Ben &
> > Jerry's/Dreyer's/Baskin-Robbins/Häagen-Dazs each produce "unique"
> > flavors of vanilla ice cream.
> >
> > Chas
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> In my opinion, each person has their own unique belief system which is how
> >> came to the 7 billion plus number.  If you want to whittle that down to
> >> something fewer for some reason, then be my guest.  Can you give me even a
> >> shot in the dark guess of where my belief system might be categorized?
> >> Atheist?  Agnostic?  Christian?  Evolving?  Wiccan?  Does it really matter
> >> one wit?  Other?  Scientologist?  Complete Mystery?  Satanic?
> >>
> >>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:28:06 -0700
> >>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] About Evidence
> >>> From: chasuk at gmail.com
> >>> To: lfalen at turbonet.com
> >>> CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; art.deco.studios at gmail.com;
> >>> vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>
> >>>
> >>> There are not 7 billion different belief systems, or anywhere near
> >>> that number. At best, there are a half dozen, regurgitated and
> >>> recapitulated into a fistful of semi-unique varieties. And some
> >>> beliefs are harmful. Some beliefs provide motivation to fly jets into
> >>> tall buildings, and some convince parents to withhold medication to
> >>> sick children. Some beliefs promote misogyny, racism, and homophobia.
> >>> Not all beliefs are equal.
> >
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