[Vision2020] heat wave

[Joe Campbell]

If you think they are reasonable you explain them to me, Scott. You
won't because you can't.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is all very entertaining which is what I've been looking for now that
> Dale Courtney unfortunately wiped nearly all trace of his enormously
> entertaining right-mind.us site from the internet.  Roger's statements below
> are reasonable to me whereas I'm not even sure what your position is at all
> Joe.  Can you summarize it for me along with your suggestions for a cure?
>
> -Scott
>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:54:26 -0700
>> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>> To: lfalen at turbonet.com
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] heat wave
>>
>> Roger: You don't even understand logic let alone science. In fact, you
>> take some kind of pride in your level of ignorance, which prevents you
>> from seeking a cure. Then you go ahead and talk to us about climate
>> science!?! As if you understood the issues or even what you were
>> saying!?!
>>
>> I like Paul, I respect Paul. He says things on a public forum and I
>> criticize him -- because other folks are listening and I feel a moral
>> obligation to do so. He feels a need to post, I feel a need to
>> criticize. That's what these venues are for. Better we get ugly than
>> not talk at all, I think.
>>
>> I like you too, Roger. And I'd be that much less of a friend for NOT
>> pointing out that you don't know what you are talking about. Friends
>> don't let friends talk junk.
>>
>> Criticism is not abuse; pointing out that you have no basis for a
>> comment like "everything in science must be verified by multiple
>> reports from independent sources" since YOU DON'T READ SCIENCE
>> JOURNALS and therefore are in no position to say whether or not there
>> are independent sources is (in my mind) a public service.
>>
>> On what basis do you hold your beliefs? You don't believe climate
>> scientists but WHY? Give us one good reason. WHY are the overwhelming
>> majority of climate scientists wrong? Why are the doomsday reports
>> wrong? "Critique the doom sayers, with the The Sky is Falling
>> scenario" is not an argument. It is a slogan. What backs that slogan
>> up?
>>
>> Personal beliefs are fine; keep them to yourself and I could care
>> less. But when you post them here they become something else, and if I
>> disagree with your comments I will criticize them. I'm interested in
>> debate, and arguments, and reasons for belief when the belief is
>> expressed in order to influence PUBLIC POLICY. So get used to it.
>>
>> Best, Joe
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:55 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>> > Tom
>> > The information I had on the 1980 heat wave was on the local radio
>> > station. It was only a degree or two from this one. That is very little
>> > difference. Global Warming runs in cycles. Man undoubtedly has some effect.
>> > The debate is in how much. It only makes sense to curtail air pollution to
>> > the extent that is economically feasible. In the 60's you could routinely
>> > smell the Pulp Mill at Lewiston Moscow. That has been cleaned up a lot. Do
>> > what is feasible with out putting us back in the Stone Age. Also take a
>> > reasonable approach, Critique the doom sayers, with the The Sky is Falling"
>> > scenario. Work on the problem is a calm reasonable manner. Science in
>> > general have lots of view points. The teutonic Plate theory was originally
>> > ridiculed as was the the effect of glaciers on land formation. There has
>> > been lots of conflicting reports on Vitamins and Herbs. The research by
>> > Wakefield on the effect of vaccinations on Autism was bogus and caused
>> > considerable harm. There is a problem b!
>> ut!
>> > work on
>> > it with a health skepticism on individual report. Every thing in science
>> > needs to be verified by multiple reports from independent sources.
>> > Roger
>> >
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