[Vision2020] More Proof Preventative Health Care Saves

[keely emerinemix]

I rent out both a residential fourplex and a large industrial piece, one here, the other in the Seattle area.  And while I don't see the relevance to your argument, Jay, I can say that I endeavor to rent to people who appear to be the types who would take care of a property with or without a security deposit.  Sometimes I've been wrong, and the security deposit hasn't had a bit to do with how they left the place.  Another time, when I had to evict a woman whose eviction meant she automatically lost the deposit, she left the place in great shape.  So great, in fact, that I ended up giving her most of the cleaning deposit back.

Again, I don't see the relevance -- unless you're arguing that care of rental property translates correctly, not to mention morally, into care of one's own health or that of their kids.  I wouldn't want to go there, but you appear determined to.

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com


Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More Proof Preventative Health Care Saves
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:30:23 -0800
From: jborden at datawedge.com
To: moscowcares at moscow.com; kjajmix1 at msn.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com



Yes, that’s the decision that the previous business owner made.    (Whose name didn’t sound anything like “Bay Jorden”).   While he thought he was doing good, he was ruining his company (and thus his ability to continue servicing his customers with the product). You can ridicule the specifics all you want, the only relevance that translates to my point is one of human nature.  I believe (and I have experienced the trend) that people care less when they are not directly tied to finances.  Is there anyone on this list that rents out residential property?  Would you say that people take more care of the apartment/house when a security deposit is on the line?  Or would you say that people generally take care of the facilities regardless?   Jay From: Moscow Cares [mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:26 PM
To: keely emerinemix
Cc: Jay Borden; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More Proof Preventative Health Care Saves According to Jay Borden: "Turns out the problem had nothing to do with design… it was customers not bothering to read or learn anything about proper use of the widgets, or trying to use the widgets for a completely different purpose altogether.  Tack on a free replacement guarantee, and customers didn’t bother to self-educate… they just let the company “fix the problem” with the warranty." So, what you are telling us, Mr. Borden, is . . . Although the customers clearly violated a product's warranty by " . . . trying to use the widgets for a completely different purpose altogether . . . ", the company honored the warranty and replaced the product. That's right up there with . . . John Smith was going into the widget business.  He would go to the widget manufacturer, load up his truck with widgets (at $10 each), take them back to his store, and sell them at $9 each.  This went on for a couple months.  He was wondering why he was losing money on what he considered to be a sound business venture.  He sought advice on what he should do from a business advisor; let's call him Bay Jorden.  Bay Jorden, after weeks of meticulous research into John Smith's business practices, came up with what he considered a sure-win solution.  He suggested to John Smith that what he needs is a . . . larger truck. Sidebar to Mr. Borden:  Do you know if this guy is selling cars?  I have a friend that can certainly use a new car . . . every year. Seeya later, Moscow. Tom HansenPost Falls, Idaho "If not us, who?If not now, when?" - Unknown
On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:57 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:Turns out the problem had nothing to do with design… it was customers not bothering to read or learn anything about proper use of the widgets, or trying to use the widgets for a completely different purpose altogether.   Tack on a free replacement guarantee, and customers didn’t bother to self-educate… they just let the company “fix the problem” with the warranty. 		 	   		  
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