[Vision2020] Fw: Fw: surprise, surprise

Fri Jan 13 15:17:08 PST 2012

Just what qualifications do Cain and "The Donald" possess that scream SECRETARY OF COMMERCE other than Cain's pizza shop and Trump's intimate familiarity with filing bankruptcy?

Seeya later, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Spokane, Washington

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

On Jan 13, 2012, at 2:51 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:

> Roger, you made an assertion that Saundra called you on, and you did it in the hope, it would seem to any reasonable person, of casting aspersions on these Democrats and the Democratic President they serve.  Your partisanship is made further evident by your apparently serious suggestion below that Herman Cain or Donald Trump be made Secretary of Commerce.  Only someone convinced that any Republican is better in that position than even the most judicious Democrat would suggest such a thing . . . unless it was open mike night at the Laugh Factory.  
> 
> Really?  Cain and Trump?  Is there any reason other than their Republican-ness that would make them good choices in your eyes?
> 
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:15:46 -0800
> > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Fw: surprise, surprise
> > 
> > Saundra
> > I admit that I did not check this in Snopes or any other source. I probably should have. However your calling me blinded by partisanship is like the pot calling the kettle black. For the most part I think I have done a better job of criticising the Republicans than you have of the Democrats. regardless of whether Raines and Company were official advisors to Obama, he did consult with them on occasion(not that there is any thing wrong with that), and they did receive Golden Parachutes. Bush was just as bad in regards to Wall Street advisers(Paulson). He did however along with John McCain call attention to the dangers of Fannie and Freddie
> > www.buchright.com
> > www.americanelephant.worldpress.com
> > 
> > Here is my recommendations for a nonpartisan cabinet for the successful republican winner
> > 
> > Vice -President- Allen West or Marco Rubio
> > State- Condi Rice
> > Defense-Petraeus
> > 
> > Treasury- Ron Paul
> > Educatiion- Mechelle Rhee
> > Labor- Linda Chavez or Thomas Sowell
> > interior- Cecill Andrus
> > Agriculture- Richard Pombo
> > Commerce- Cain or Trump
> > 
> > Admittedly heavy to Republicans
> > 
> > Roger 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:03:34 -0800
> > 
> > To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fw: Fw: surprise, surprise
> > 
> > > Come on, Roger -- don't be so blinded by partisanship that you prove the adage that there's a sucker born every minute willing to peddle lies.
> > > 
> > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fanniemae.asp
> > > FALSE!!!
> > > 
> > > Don't like Snopes? Then here's more:
> > > http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/wall_street.htm
> > > 
> > > It's as untrue now as it was back in 2008.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Saundra
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of lfalen
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:30 AM
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Fw: Fw: surprise, surprise
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Subject: Fw: surprise, surprise
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > WHERE ARE THEY NOW? Surprise!!!!
> > > 
> > > The three who brought down Wall Street.
> > > 
> > > Here's a quick look into the three former Fannie Mae executives who brought down Wall Street.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae.
> > > Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae's accounting activities. Raines left with a "golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Tim Howard - was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard "was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a "stable pattern of earnings" at Fannie. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004. Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million." Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
> > > Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
> > > *****************************************************************************************
> > > 
> > > WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
> > > 
> > > FRANKLIN RAINES?
> > > Raines works for the Obama Campaign as his Chief Economic Advisor.
> > > 
> > > TIM HOWARD?
> > > Howard is a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama under Franklin Raines.
> > > 
> > > JIM JOHNSON?
> > > Johnson was hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee.
> > > 
> > > Are we stupid or what? Vote in 2012..it is the most important election of our lives...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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