[Vision2020] Say What?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Mon Jan 9 21:28:03 PST 2012


I still don't get this point. My healthcare services restrict my choice
too. Of course, if I didn't have healthcare, I'd have a lot more choices. I
could go anywhere I wanted. But I couldn't afford healthcare. All
healthcare insurance companies restrict choice but no one who has an
opportunity to have good access to healthcare refuses it for this reason.
No one. You don't think that this is a problem for say my healthcare
providers, so why should it be a problem for universal healthcare? If this
was really a problem, lots of folks who had access to healthcare insurance
would reject it since no insurance companies allow you to see ANYONE you
wish. Maybe this is a problem with healthcare insurance companies but this
is not a problem with universal healthcare per se. It isn't as if the
practice of healthcare insurance companies would change were there
universal healthcare.

Also, take your example. Time Warner does not provide the YES network. I
could get a Dish package which has that option but it would be a LOT more
expensive and I CHOOSE not to do so. It isn't as if healthcare providers
PREVENT you from seeing any doctor you want. You just can't file for
insurance benefits. But your CHOICES are not prevented; they are just
restricted because folks in general would rather save money.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> Bad choice of words for Romney. I think what he meant was the he liked
> having the authority to decide who provides him services for health care. I
> have to agree, that it would be horrible not be able to have the power to
> dismiss a service provider that you don't like. Any football fan that has
> had Time Warner or Dish Network as a television provider would have to
> agree.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>   *From:* keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> *To:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2012 8:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
>  Besides the cringeworthiness of Romney's words is the reality that
> "firing" one's health insurance company virtually guarantees great
> difficulty in finding another . . .
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:58:26 -0800
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?
> >
> > "I want individuals to have their own insurance. That means the
> insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. It also means
> if you don't like what they do, you can fire them. I like being able to
> fire people that provide services to me."
> >
> > - Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney (January 9, 2012)
> >
> > Video courtesy of the Associated Press.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBfWB64iHAs
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > This video is going to get lots of mileage over the next few weeks.
> >
> > Seeya later, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Spokane, Washington
> >
> > "If not us, who?
> > If not now, when?"
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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