[Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss OvernightParking in Downtown

Art Deco art.deco.studios at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 08:26:08 PST 2012


Donovan writes:

"If you are waiting for Idaho politicians to solve your problems, you are
going to be waiting a long, long time."

The current Idaho legislature excels at creating problems, not solving them.

w.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:

> Donovan,
>
> There's this thing called "street maintenance"
>
> DC
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 21:20, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Wayne,
>
> I simply think it is an easy money maker for the City. The concern for
> downtown businesses is just an excuse for an easy making of the ticketing
> quotas. There is no reason someone cannot park downtown from 2am till
> businesses open the next day and be harming anyone financially except the
> city that can be making money off those car's overnight stay.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>    *From:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss
> OvernightParking in Downtown
>
> I guess I am really still missing something.
>
> Let's say that the ostensible public policy of Moscow is to provide on
> street parking during normal business hours for the downtown business
> customers..
>
> So then allow 2 hour parking in a given area from 9 to 6, Mon - Sat.  So
> any vehicle parked in the area before or at 9 and still there after 11
> would be eligible for a parking ticket.   Why is there a need to prohibit
> parking otherwise?
>
> If some leaves there car overnight and retrieves it before 11, what harm
> is done?  If it is still there after 11, it is eligible for a ticket like
> anyone else.  Remember those parking overnight are also customers of
> downtown businesses, to wit, the bars, etc.
>
> If parking for downtown business customers is really the policy, why can
> people purchase all day parking permits in the city parking lots?
>
> The real truth is that parking policy favors the privileged:  those that
> can pay.  It has been my observation that a lot of downtown parking is used
> by business owners and employees.  Why are these people more important than
> others such as those that wish to be responsible by not driving when
> impaired?
>
> How much money and time is being wasted enforcing the no overnight parking
> ban?
>
> w.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> Does this mean that since the city STILL hasn't  plowed the street I park
> on since the last snow storm (it melted thank god!) does this mean I can
> now park on one of the downtown streets that DO
> get plowed over and over, on a regular basis when it snows?
>
> Has everyone else gotten the card hung on their door by the city outlining
> which streets are involved? It shows an OVAL area, not a rectangle, and
> only covers "half" blocks in some areas.
> So only the parts of the streets are involved?
>
> THANK GOD  the November elections aren't that far away!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Craine Kit wrote:
>
>  Downtown residents claiming space for permanent storage of their
> vehicles, thereby decreasing the supply of spaces for customers of downtown
> businesses.
>
> Kit Craine
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Art Deco wrote:
>
>  I'm afraid I missed something. What great harm is done by allowing
> overnight parking?
>
> w.
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
> Way back in the day, and no, I'm NOT telling you all how far back in the
> day.
>
> *laugh*
>
> Anyway, when we went to the Capricorn, we would park a couple of blocks
> off Main Street PRIOR to going into the club.
>
> My kids got a few tickets, then they wised up, and walked... My son used
> to say there is no place in Moscow too far to walk to, or, home from.
>
> Perhaps some signs  saying "don't drink and drive" on the same post which
> state the parking hours is in order.
>
> Janesta
> Idaho Snow Bird
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM, deb <debismith at moscow.com> wrote:
> A few years (well, quite a few years) ago, we were celebrating our
> anniversary and called a friend to drive us home, leaving our car parked
> off Main near Mingles. We got a ticket, naturally. Wondered what the
> incentive to find a ride might be for an inebriated younger person who
> didn't want to pay a parking ticket and didn't have the experience/age to
> really understand the consequences of DUI...
> Debi R-S
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Hansen
> To: Stephanie Kalasz
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] PR - Council Committee to Discuss
> OvernightParking in Downtown
>
> One question concerning overnight parking on Main Street that has been
> discussed here on the Viz that should be brought before the PWF Committee
> . . .
>
> What options are there for somebody, parked on Main Street, who (late in
> the evening) decides they have had too much to drink . . . and drive?
>  Would they be legally permitted to leave their vehicle parked on Main
> Street overnight?
>
> Seeya later, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Post Falls, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Stephanie Kalasz <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us>
> wrote:
>
>  City of Moscow
>
> 206 E Third Street
>
> Moscow, ID 83843
>
> Contact: Gary J. Riedner, City Supervisor
>
> p     |  208-883-7006
>
> e     |   griedner at ci.moscow.id.us
>
> w    |  www.ci.moscow.id.us
>
> PRESS RELEASE
>
> Overnight Parking Restrictions on Main Street to be discussed by Council
> Committee
>
> February 9, 2012 (Moscow, Idaho) – The City of Moscow Public Works/Finance
> Committee will be reviewing overnight parking restrictions in the downtown
> area on February 13, at 3 p.m. in City Hall Council Chambers at 206 E Third
> Street.  The area to be discussed includes Washington, Jackson, and Main
> Streets from First to Eighth Street in the downtown core.   A request has
> been brought to the Council to reduce the overnight parking restrictions to
> accommodate business access primarily in the early morning hours of the
> current parking restrictions.
>
> A map of the area to be reviewed is posted on the City of Moscow’s website
> at www.ci.moscow.id.us.  For more information please call Gary Riedner,
> City Supervisor at 208-883-7006.  To submit public comment on the issues,
> please email Stephanie Kalasz, City Clerk at skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us.
>
> ###
>
> Story Contact: Gary J. Riedner, City Supervisor
>
> Phone: 208.883.7006
>
> Email: griedner at ci.moscow.id.us
>
> The City of Moscow delivers quality municipal services while ensuring
> responsible use of resources.
>
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