[Vision2020] The N.R.A. at the Bench

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Fri Dec 28 12:12:21 PST 2012


The relevant stats are not new-US-stats vs. old-US-stats. They are US-stats
vs. the rest-of-the-frickin'-civilized-world stats.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Andy Boyd <moscowrecycling at turbonet.com>wrote:

> Ok, research does show a decrease in violent crimes using AW starting with
> the gun ban and continuing after it was lifted.****
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> That being said I would still like to know why someone would need this
> type of weapon.****
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> Of all ‘developed’ nations we have more violent gun crime then all other
> developed nations combined so how do you suggest limiting these types of
> crimes?  Will arming teachers help? More guns equals less crime?****
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> Andy Boyd****
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> *From:* Gary Crabtree [mailto:moscowlocksmith at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2012 11:31 AM
> *To:* Andy Boyd
> *Cc:* Art Deco; vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] The N.R.A. at the Bench****
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> "Since the assault weapons ban has been lifted, there have been more
> violent crimes."****
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> I can't speak to "violent crimes" over all as I don't know how it's
> defined but gun violence is down. The assault weapons ban had zero effect
> on gun crime.****
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> "I don’t wish to take away all guns. And I don’t imagine the benefits,
> they are real."****
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> Since you are willing to take away many thousands of guns to solve a
> problem that reflects less than two percent of gun violence, how many guns
> would you be willing to ban to prevent over sixty two percent? Suicide by
> firearm only requires but a single shot. Why would any sane American
> believe that once one class of firearm was made illegal that others
> wouldn't soon follow? People such as yourself will always have a
> rationalization for taking away the rights of others****
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> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Andy Boyd <moscowrecycling at turbonet.com>
> wrote:****
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> Since the assault weapons ban has been lifted, there have been more
> violent crimes.****
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