[Vision2020] The Petition

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Tue Dec 18 20:46:06 PST 2012


The crucial point is Australia DID pass gun legislation and because of it
DID succeed in reducing gun violence. So it is ignorance to say gun control
can't reduce gun crime. As a matter of fact, it happened in Australia! It
could happen here and if we're going to have a dialogue on this topic, we
should be willing to think outside the box and try to see what kinds of
solutions we can reach.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Yes, if the US outlaws all "Semiautomatic and automatic rifles and
> shotguns" it will have a reduction in the number of deaths caused by
> semiautomatic, automatic rifles, and shotguns. Unlikely anyone will
> be getting that to pass through US Courts. Australia is more isolated and
> had fewer weapons and no laws protecting gun ownership rights.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
>   *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *To:* Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <
> vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:06 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] The Petition
>
>  This makes no sense. Just to use an example, if you banned assault
> rifles, no one could steal them. I'm not saying that's what we should do.
> But we should look at ALL possible solutions. Again, research Australia and
> gun control. Best, Joe
>
> On Dec 18, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>   They steal the guns. So I don't think the laws would change the
> situation, unless you ban their production.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
>   *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *To:* Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <
> vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] The Petition
>
>  Some form of gun control has got to be part of the solution. And I
> believe all the guns used in recent shootings were legally purchased.
> That's why some form of gun control has got to be part of the solution.
> Australia did it, so can we
>
> On Dec 18, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Gun laws are not the answer to this problem. Not allowing for the
> public release of the gunman's name would go further then gun laws, as they
> usually do it for fame. Education of staff, students, and community
> members, and better protection of schools would also help. This kid did not
> get the guns legally, and no reasonable restrictive gun law would have
> prevented it. There are a host of other things that would have helped
> though.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
>   *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> *To:* Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:54 PM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] The Petition
>
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>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
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