[Vision2020] The one argument I can make in favor of being 'pro-life'

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Tue Aug 28 09:01:30 PDT 2012


This is a constructive dilemma: if A then C; if B then C; A or B; so C



On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Your concern about women aborting babies based on sexual orientation, race, and / or gender sets up a false dilemma.  Pro-choicers tend not to discriminate against people based on those listed traits and thus are much less likely to abort due to them.  Pro-lifers who tend to more conservative and are more likely to discriminate in society based on gay, race, gender, religion, etc. will not abort for any reason. 
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> And my point that is backed by statistical fact is that women who are self-described 'pro-life', and thus are against abortions for themselves and others, are roughly 9 times less likely to be faced themselves with the decision of choosing (even though they believe that they should have no choice in the matter) to carry a Down's Syndrome pregnancy to full term.  If women have a 9x factor less of having a Down's pregnancy by being self-described 'pro-life', then it gives pause for thought.
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> -Scott
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:11:35 -0700
> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The one argument I can make in favor of being 'pro-life'
> To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> 
> Sounds like genocide of people with Down's Syndrome. How sad. I use to help a young woman with Down's live independently. She was a sweet kind angel with not a evil cell in her. How people can destroy such angels from heaven is beyond me. I worry they abort babies they think will be gay, or because of their race, or gender.
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> As to your theory, Scott. I think that a pro-life woman is more like to have a baby with Down's because a pro-choice woman would be far more likely to abort it. Older women are also statistically more likely to have a baby with Down's and older women are statistically more likely to be pro-life as well.
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> Donovan J. Arnold
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> From: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
> To: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:25 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] The one argument I can make in favor of being 'pro-life'
> 
> I loved the stats Dale posted on his site.  For instance, he had polling data that showed with some kooky accounting that 'The majority of Americans are pro-life'.  Shortly thereafter, he had a post titled 'Search and Destroy' which showed that 92% of Down's Syndrome pregnancies are aborted.  So let's say that both of these statistics are roughly accurate, but for crunching numbers more quickly let's say:
> 50% of American women are pro-life and the other 50% are pro-choice
> 90% of Down's Syndrome pregnancies are aborted (assume all these abortions are by self described 'pro-choice' women)
> 10% of Down's Syndrome pregnancies are carried to term (assume all these births are by hard core pro-life women who are also NOT pro-choice for other women)
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> Clearly these numbers show that that by being 'pro-life', a woman SIGNIFICANTLY reduces her risk of having a Down's Syndrome pregnancy.  I welcome any / all comments to blow holes in my theory.
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> -Scott
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