[Vision2020] Beyond Irony

[Scott Dredge]

Saundra wrote: 'Has anyone else noticed that Wilson has 
become kind of a sad, washed-up, full of nothing so much as hot air “has
 been” on the national scene?'

Yes - it's quite obvious.  I think part of the problem Doug is having is that it was easy for him to build up a following of weaklings looking for guidance when he was able to simply publish his dogma unidirectionally with fliers in the Argonaut, books he cranked out on his own press, his laughable Credenda Agenda, etc.  and from his bloviations from his Christ Church bully pulpit.  It's a much different story when he faces responses to his diatribes.  He and his ilk were crushed right here on v2020 years ago.  You (Saundra), Joan, and a few others ran circles around him until he, Doug Jones, Dale, and a few other minions couldn't take the heat anymore and then started blogging to get back into a more preachy / sermony type of setting where they could go backward to spewing about 'how the way things ought to be and how people should all behave' according to them and to bash 'venom 2020' in an attempt to discredit this open and uncensored forum.

Truthfully I haven't been following too much about what's going on with Christ Church.  I've done some searching recently and see that Doug Jones resigned 3 years ago due to some mis-alignment around their collective 'group think' requirement.  And Dale got his Karmaic just dessert for blogging against the evils of  'political correctness' a few times too many.  That's the one I'm most amazed about.  God gives him a ginormous megaphone - 2 Google clicks of separation from a hit motion picture seen by tens of millions of people - and here's the opportunity of a lifetime to inform the masses about 'the word of God' and the evils of government, 'government schools', 'intoleristas', abortion, homosexuality, evolution, birth control, 'global warming high priests', etc., etc., etc., and...what happened?  You're guess is as good as mine.  I'd hate to think he sold out as opposed to saving mankind so I won't think the worst.  Maybe he asked and answered 'What would Jesus do?' and then he followed that path.  I'd guess that he did what most people do on daily, hourly, continuous basis - he followed his conscience and did what he thought was best.  That's what I would have done too and maybe I'd have done the same thing or maybe I'd have done the complete opposite of him.

Anyway - Wilson being a sad, washed-up, full of nothing is no surprise to me.  Cockroaches like him don't do too well when light is shined on them.

-Scott

From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
To: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:23:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Beyond Irony

Oh, this is just too rich!  Wilson, King of Plagiarism, conveniently forgetting his own shameful history!  In addition, I’ve heard tell that SSAIW wasn’t Wilson’s only instance of plagiarism – my understanding is that he’s also plagiarized from other dead authors.  He really ought to be ashamed, but personal shame just isn’t in him, although he excels at shaming others. From Wilson’s bloviated post and with respect to his “cooked scientific research,” I think that’s something he knows a lot about!  Does anyone else remember the Shroud of Urine, I mean Turin “scientific research” conducted on the roof of NSA, IIRC?  So, Wilson is obviously in his own “Faker” category. Here’s another quote I found fascinating:“When we accept our charge from God, and set ourselves to true making, to God-honoring work, He promises to bless it. When we set ourselves to shirk, we are asking for poverty to come after us (Prov. 10:4-5).” I guess that’s the explanation for why after decades of fundraising, Wilson & his flock still don’t have the cathedral they’ve lusted after for so long & instead have to continue to meet in the Logos gym.  More signs that Wilson belongs in the “Faker” category. Has anyone else noticed that Wilson has become kind of a sad, washed-up, full of nothing so much as hot air “has been” on the national scene?  More & more of those who typically have been Wilson supporters on the non-local scene have reached the realization that they can’t even pretend anymore that Wilson comes close to passing the smell test.  He faces some significant theological challenges out on the US Christian stage, but as a Christian, I’m heartened that while some locally have been willing to turn a blind eye to some of his most odious positions & antics, even those who share many theological similarities with Wilson have found things like SSAIW, sex acts are of necessity non-egalitarian, defending & marrying off chomos, etc. most ungodly. Some things never change, but can’t say that I’m that Wilson continues to be a rank hypocrite who frankly excels at nothing more than ignoring the beam in his own eye to focus on the motes in the eyes of others. There’s also something seriously pathological about Wilson’s post – it is, perhaps, the best example of projection I’ve seen in a long time. Thanks for sharing, Rose.  SaundraMoscow, ID I distrust those who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.~ Susan B. Anthony  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Huskey
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:04 AM
To: 'Moscow Vision2020'
Subject: [Vision2020] Beyond Irony This morning Doug Wilson posts a remarkable statement on his blog which he calls “Makers or Fakers . But, even I, old cynic that I am , am left breathless by these sentences. “It is no coincidence that our generation suffers under a burden of plagiarizing journalists, confiscatory government, cooked scientific research, and so on. We have lost our understanding of the difference between meum and tuum, and this is because we are listening to the serpent instead of to God.”  [bolding mine] What is this about???   He is plugging a dagger into the  fat cracker back of  his old pal and co-author of Southern Slavery As It Was Steve Wilkins.  Of course, Doug,  was editor and co-author so maybe he is finally confessing his sins as well.  On second thought, probably not.  Rosemary Huskey
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