[Vision2020] Narcotics = Good, Marijuana = Evil?

Dave tiedye at turbonet.com
Sun Apr 8 08:15:11 PDT 2012


Really Rodger?  Why do you think that some people should not receive 
health care?

Dave


On 04/07/2012 03:28 PM, lfalen wrote:
> I agree with every thing you said, except for the last two paragraphs. This is what I was trying to say, but you did a better job of it.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "deb" debismith at moscow.com
> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:49:02 -0700
> To: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com, "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcotics = Good, Marijuana = Evil?
>
>> Nice image, Tom!
>> Before I star this rant to the V, I should give full disclosure: my spouse
>> is on VA benefits for health care. It is minimal, but better than nothing.
>> He gets his prescriptions for $8 each per month, can go to Spokane's VA Med
>> Center for checkups and non-life-threatening emergencies ( a broken bone
>> with no significant bleeding--drive to Spokane. A possible heart attack that
>> turns out to be an actual heart attack, go to Gritman and they will pay--not
>> an actual heart attack, tough luck). Since he had no medical insurance, this
>> is still a positive thing. He was military, Viet Nam era, not carreer, not
>> retired. We are very pleased that he gets this much!!!! My ex-spouse is also
>> Viet Nam era military, and being treated for Agent Orange exposure. Without
>> VA medical care, his prognosis would be grim as he has no ability to get
>> health insurance (PTSD has far reaching effects).
>> BUT
>> I just heard from my mom that her significant other (retired military) was
>> prescribed oxy as an alternative to Motrin. He was  taking Motrin every
>> couple of days as needed  for pain, but his VA doc prescribed oxy 2 times
>> daily because Motrin can cause liver and kidney damage! And one of the BIG
>> issues with oxy (aside from the easy addiction issue) is kidney and liver
>> damage! The guy is 73 years old, in great shape, walks 6 miles a day, and
>> absolutely doesn't want the oxy. It was a nightmare to get the VA to say he
>> didn't have to (against doctor orders) take it. He was prescribed something
>> worse in larger doses  to replace something relatively benign. And as oxy is
>> SOOOOO over-prescribed, why wouldn't the VA doctor (who incidently is
>> charged with assisting military folks with getting past drug addictions)
>> just let the old fart be?
>> If medical marijuana was available in Utah, he would be pleased to do
>> that---no kidney or liver damage, no addiction issues, no irritation with
>> the VA issues.....
>>
>> Somehow, we have missed the boat in the US. Big Pharma has the lobby, simple
>> remedies are anathema because Big Pharma doesn't own them....And we are
>> supposed to trust the insurance/drug industry for our health care? And the
>> Republice think a free market economy is the way to go? Well, perhaps after
>> everyone with a health issue is dead......
>>
>> follow the dots (or just stay in LaLa Land). Open your eyes, and get a bit
>> more cynical to push towards something more hopeful......When the
>> pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies are held accountable
>> and regulated in a real way, this country will be much better off. EVERY US
>> CITZEN SHOULD HAVE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE. PERIOD, FULL STOP.
>> Rant done....
>> Debi R-S
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Hansen"<thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "lfalen"<lfalen at turbonet.com>
>> Cc:<vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 8:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcotics = Good, Marijuana = Evil?
>>
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