[Vision2020] Andrew Sullivan: There's so much bad religion right now

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Sat Apr 7 15:42:37 PDT 2012


I think that both sides are equally guilty. I do not agree with those on the right that want to force someone to have and pay for an ultrasound that they do not want. Nether do I agree with those on the left that want religious organizations to pay for what goes against their beliefs. The founders saw so much abuse of religious freedom, that they put it in the "Bill of Rights". The Puritans came to this country in order to have religious freedom. They promptly outlawed everything except their belief. Roger Williams was kicked out. He set up a colony where religious freedom was truly honored. This was the inspiration for it being in the Bill of Rights.
Roger
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From: Art Deco art.deco.studios at gmail.com
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:54:42 -0700
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Subject: [Vision2020] Andrew Sullivan: There's so much bad religion right now

>     April 7, 2012 12:05 PM
> Andrew Sullivan: There's so much bad religion right now
> 
> (CBS News) Newsweek columnist and longtime Catholic Andrew Sullivan has
> provoked controversy with his latest article which states that Christianity
> has been "destroyed by politics, priests and get-rich evangelists."
> 
> Christianity in
> Crisis<http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/04/01/andrew-sullivan-christianity-in-crisis.html>(Newsweek/The
> Daily Beast)
> 
> Appearing on "CBS This Morning: Saturday," Sullivan said the crisis facing
> Christianity was especially bad today for one reason: "When I go and see
> young people, their image of Christianity these days is one of judgment,
> intolerance and to some extent bigotry and politics," Sullivan said. "They
> associate it with one political party in this country, because of the
> fusion of evangelical and ultra-orthodox Catholics with the Republican
> Party. They don't see it as the message of Jesus, they don't see it any
> more as a message of love and forgiveness. They see it as a bunch of people
> trying to control their lives through political mechanisms.
> 
> "Or, if they're in an evangelical church they're also susceptible to things
> like the 'prosperity gospel,' which is saying that Jesus told you to get
> rich.
> 
> "There's so much bad religion right now in this country that I felt it was
> important as a Christian to say, 'This is not what I believe. This is not
> what many of my fellow Catholics believe. We want to return to the message
> of Jesus and the gospels, not these obsessive battles over contraception or
> gay marriage or these other, I think, political issues, where Jesus really,
> really avoided politics at all costs," Sullivan said.
> 
> When asked to comment on Sullivan's premise, CBS News faith and religion
> contributor Father Edward Beck said he was less pessimistic. "I think if
> you look at our country, we remain a country of believers and a country who
> has faith that religion has meaning and can do a lot of good."
> 
> However, Father Beck said that during the current political season religion
> has been used as a wedge: "We've had the religion of political candidates
> denigrated; we've had our president's religion questioned. And so people
> have been using religion in divisive ways," he said.
> 
> A recent Pew Research Center poll showed a stunning increase in the
> percentage of people - across party lines - who believe there is too much
> expression of faith and prayer by political leaders. In 2001 15 percent of
> Democrats, 14 percent of Republicans and 8 percent of Independents answered
> Yes. In 2012, 46 percent of Democrats, 42 percent of Republicans and 24
> percent of Independents answered Yes.
> 
> Sullivan said he was not pessimistic about faith, but about the Church: "I
> think there are a lot of conversations going around outside the hierarchy
> of these churches about how to reclaim Jesus from the distortion of
> politics and the way Jesus has become part of partisan politics in this
> country," he said.
> 
> Sullivan added, "The current obsession with contraception by the bishops in
> this country does not resonate with people trying to find Jesus in their
> lives. It feels like the church is trying to make a power play instead of
> being [a force for the powerless.]" He also blamed the abuse scandals as
> creating a rift between the hierarchy of the Catholic church and its
> followers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> art.deco.studios at gmail.com
> 
> 



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