[Vision2020] Say What?

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue Apr 3 12:04:07 PDT 2012


Thanks Saundra
You answered the question I posed on my previous post.
Roger
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From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:57:49 -0700
To: "'Sunil Ramalingam'" sunilramalingam at hotmail.com, "'vision 2020'" vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?

> Hi Sunil,
> 
>  
> 
> I didn't take time to check out each & every CSU campus, but I checked
> enough to know that there aren't seven or eight campuses that don't offer US
> History.  For anyone else interested, you can access each campus from the
> following link:
> 
> http://www.calstate.edu/
> 
>  
> 
> Here's more about the UC facts:
> 
> http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/04/02/456547/santorum-uc-american-hi
> story/?mobile=nc
> 
>  
> 
> In fact, of the 10 UC system schools, just one (San Francisco) doesn't offer
> American history courses. But that's because it doesn't offer any humanities
> courses at all - it's a medical school.
> 
> Meanwhile,
> <http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_sends_request>
> Berkeley,  <http://www.editor.uci.edu/catalogue/hum/hum.14.htm> Irvine,
> <http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/ucdwebcatalog/PDF/07GenCatUgradEdu.pdf> Davis,
> <http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog11-12-400.htm#445416584_pgfId-
> 1003847> Los Angeles,
> <http://ssha.ucmerced.edu/2.asp?uc=1&lvl2=41&lvl3=41&lvl4=107&contentid=144>
> Merced,  <http://catalog.ucr.edu/scribd.html> Riverside,
> <http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/courses/HIST.html> San Diego,
> <http://my.sa.ucsb.edu/Catalog/Current/CollegesDepartments/ls-intro/hist.asp
> x?DeptTab=Courses> Santa Barbara, and
> <http://reg.ucsc.edu/catalog/html/undergrad_acad.html> Santa Cruz all offer
> numerous American history courses. All require students to take U.S. history
> before they can graduate.
> 
> University of California spokesperson Brooke Converse emailed to note that
> <http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/counselors/graduation-requ
> irements/history/index.html> every single UC undergraduate program is
> required to study "American history and institutions," though specific
> requirements vary at each campus.
> 
>  
> 
> It seems to me the real question is:  what exactly is it that Santorum was
> reading to give him such gross misinformation?  Quite the hit job - no
> matter how inaccurate -- on California higher education, but is that
> surprising coming from Santorum?
> 
>  
> 
> The baffling thing to me is that even when the GOP/TPers get snookered by
> special interest groups that thrive on providing misinformation, they don't
> seem to learn the lesson & keep right on sucking up the muck.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Saundra
> 
>  
> 
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:26 PM
> To: vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> 
>  
> 
> Nick,
> 
> Tim White got his doctorate at Berkeley, and didn't go to Davis.
> 
> I went to Davis and took courses on American history there. Maybe Santorum
> meant the Cal State system? Hmm, I went to Sac State too, and took American
> history courses there too. Maybe they took them off the curriculum.
> 
> Sunil
> 
>   _____  
> 
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:18:18 -0700
> From: ngier006 at gmail.com
> To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> 
> I'm sure that the entire UC system has responded to Santorum already, but I
> just checked the history dept. at UC Davis (that is where our illustrious
> former president Time White went) and they have tons of courses on American
> history.
> 
>  
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> "I was just reading something last night from the state of California. And
> that the California universities - I think it's seven or eight of the
> California system of universities don't even teach an American history
> course. It's not even available to be taught."
> 
> - Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum (April 2, 2012)
> 
> ---------------
> 
> http://sfist.com/2012/04/02/rick_santorum_claims_california_universities_are
> _ruining_america.php
> 
> Video
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asTPft2-RWw
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asTPft2-RWw&feature=player_embedded>
> &feature=player_embedded
> 
> --------------------------------
> 
> Some things you just can't make up.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
> 
> - Unknown
> 
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