[Vision2020] Eye Opener

Dan Carscallen areaman at moscow.com
Tue Sep 20 19:34:05 PDT 2011 

Donovan,

This is nothing new. Darrell can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the prescription drug disposal program has been going on for at least a year now, perhaps two. 

Believe me, Darrell has thought of everything you're talking about. You're coming into this en media res, going over ground that's already been trod.

 Let's face it, he's a pretty sharp guy.

DC

On Sep 20, 2011, at 19:11, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Darell,
>  
> What laws forbid disposing of prescription medications at pharmacies?
> Have you contacted student environmental groups on campus to see if UI Health can help?
> Have you contacted Gritman to see if they can take unused prescriptions and safely dispose of them?
> Why are you not interested in proper disposal of unwanted illegal drugs? Don't they seep into our ground water too?
> What assurance do you provide prescription users their privacy will be protected?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Donovan Arnold
>  
> 
> From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
> To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eye Opener
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> 2 things, Donovan:
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> 1.  I'd love to locate at a pharmacy.  Unfortunately, laws make that difficult.
> 2.  We're not targetting illegal drugs.  We're targetting Gram and Gramps that have some leftover, and don't know what to do with it.
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> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You placed the only safe place to dispose of drugs inside the Moscow Police Department? ???? That is one place I for sure would never dump off my unused or expired prescription medications. I am certain that drug users trying to ditch their stash and go clean or parents and spouses ditching their loved ones found stash wouldn't be willing to walk into the police department with illegal drugs. If someone with drugs or medications doesn't want anyone to know, and their choice is the toilet or going into the Police Department, the toilet it will be, every time.
>  
> Honestly, I think you should place the medication and drugs in a container at a pharmacy. There your confidentiality is secure if your forget to take your name off the bottle or don't want to, and you won't go to jail for getting rid your teenager's illegal drug stash.  No offense to our fine MPD, however, pharmacist should be the ones handling unknown or dangerous medications and drugs, not police officers.
>  
> Donovan Arnold
> 
> From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
> To: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eye Opener
> 
> Apropos to this discussion:  Thru my work with the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, LCYAC, Moscows' Sustainable Environment Commission, and the MPD there is now a place to properly dispose of prescription drugs in Moscow.  We have an anonymous drop box in the MPD front office.  All drugs are incinerated.
>  
> Why properly dispose of prescription drugs?
> 1.  Leftover prescription drugs are frequently stolen and improperly used or re-sold.
> 2.  Improperly disposing of leftover prescription drugs (flushing or throwing out) causes the chemicals to leach into our groundwater.
>  
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> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com> wrote:
> Mr. Falen -
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> Exactly what is it about "Worst Pills, Best Pills" that makes you think that it is a "left wing group"?
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> It advertises itself as "Your expert, independent second opinion for prescription drug information".
> 
> http://www.worstpills.org/
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> Is it the free drug tips it provides?
> http://www.worstpills.org/includes/page.cfm?op_id=65
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> Perhaps it's the drug reviews, warnings, and suggestions of safer alternatives.
> 
> Which is it, Roger?
>  
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
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> On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:29, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks Wayne
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>> I don't know if you  take it or not, but Worst Pill, Best Pill" put out by Public Citizen ( a left wing group) does a good job of pointing  out these problems.
>> Roger
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>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Art Deco" deco at moscow.com
>> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:50:55 -0700
>> To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Eye Opener
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>>> Drugs, though legal, can be deadly 
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>>> By Lisa Girion, Scott Glover and Doug Smith 
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>>> LOS ANGELES - Propelled by an increase in prescription narcotic overdoses, drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in the United States, a Los Angeles Times analysis of government data has found.
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>>> Drugs exceeded motor vehicle accidents as a cause of death in 2009, killing at least 37,485 people nationwide, according to preliminary data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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>>> While most major causes of preventable death are declining, drugs are an exception. The death toll has doubled in the last decade, now claiming a life every 14 minutes. By contrast, traffic accidents have been dropping for decades because of huge investments in auto safety.
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>>> Public health experts have used the comparison to draw 
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>>> See DRUGS, A4 
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>>> See DRUGS on Page A04
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>>> DRUGS
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>>> attention to the nation's growing prescription drug problem, which they characterize as an epidemic. This is the first time that drugs have accounted for more fatalities than traffic accidents since the government started tracking druginduced deaths in 1979. 
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>>> Fueling the surge in deaths are prescription pain and anxiety drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous when combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol. Among the most commonly abused are Oxy-Contin, Vicodin, Xanax and Soma. One relative newcomer to the scene is Fentanyl, a painkiller that comes in the form of patches and lollipops and is 100 times more powerful than morphine. 
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>>> Such drugs now cause more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined. 
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>>> "The problem is right here under our noses in our medicine cabinets," said Laz Salinas, a sheriff's commander in Santa Barbara, which has seen a dramatic rise in prescription drug deaths in recent years. 
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>>> Overdose victims range in age and circumstance from teenagers who pop pills to get a heroin-like high to middle-aged working men and women who take medications prescribed for strained backs and bum knees and become addicted. A review of hundreds of autopsy reports in Southern California reveals one tragic demise after another: A 19year-old Army recruit who had just passed his military physical took a handful of Xanax and painkillers while partying with friends. A groom, anxious over his upcoming wedding, overdosed on a cocktail of prescription drugs. A teenage honor student overdosed on painkillers her father left in his medicine cabinet from a surgery years earlier. A toddler was orphaned after both parents overdosed on prescription drugs months apart. A grandmother suffering from chronic back pain apparently forgot she'd already taken her daily regimen of pills and ended up double dosing. 
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>>> Many died after failed attempts at rehab - or after using one too many times while contemplating quitting. 
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>>> The seeds of the problem were planted more than a decade ago by well-meaning efforts by doctors to mitigate suffering, as well as aggressive sales campaigns by pharmaceutical manufacturers. In hindsight, the liberalized prescription of pain drugs "may in fact be the cause of the epidemic we're now facing," said Linda Rosenstock, dean of the University of California, Los Angeles School of Public Health. 
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>>> In some ways, prescription drugs are more dangerous than illicit ones because users don't have their guard up, said Los Angeles County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Opferman, head of a task force on prescription drug-related crimes. "People feel they are safer with prescription drugs because you get them from a pharmacy and they are prescribed by a doctor," Opferman said. "Younger people believe they are safer because they see their parents taking them. It doesn't have the same stigma as using street narcotics." 
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>>> The triumph of public health policies that have improved traffic safety over the years through the use of seat belts, air bags and other measures stands in stark contrast to the nation's record on prescription drugs. Even though more people are driving more miles, traffic fatalities have dropped by more than a third since the early 1970s to 36,284 in 2009. Drug-induced deaths had equaled or surpassed traffic fatalities in California, 22 other states and the District of Columbia even before the 2009 figures revealed the shift at the national level. 
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>>> Keeping track 
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>>> The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention collects data on all causes of death each year and analyzes them to identify health problems. Drug-induced deaths are mostly accidental overdoses but also include suicides and fatal diseases caused by drugs. The CDC's 2009 statistics are the agency's most current. 
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>>> Drug fatalities more than doubled among teens and young adults between 2000 and 2008. Deaths more than tripled among people aged 50 to 69, the Times analysis found. In terms of sheer numbers, the death toll is highest among people in their 40s. 
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>>> Overdose deaths involving prescription painkillers, including OxyContin and Vicodin, and anti-anxiety drugs such as Valium and Xanax more than tripled between 2000 and 2008. 
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>>> The rise in deaths corresponds with doctors prescribing more painkillers and anti-anxiety medications. The number of prescriptions for the strongest pain pills filled at California pharmacies, for instance, increased more than 43 percent since 2007 - and the doses grew by even more, nearly 50 percent. 
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>>> Those prescriptions provide relief to pain sufferers but also fuel a thriving black market. Prescription drugs are traded on Internet chat rooms that buzz with offers of "vikes," "percs" and "oxys" for $10 to $80 a pill. They are sold on street corners along with heroin, marijuana and crack. An addiction to prescription drugs can be costly; a heavy Oxy-Contin habit can run twice as much as a heroin addiction, authorities say. 
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>>> The most commonly abused prescription drug, hydrocodone, also is the most widely prescribed drug in America, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency. Better known as Vicodin, the pain reliever is prescribed more often than the top cholesterol drug and the top antibiotic. 
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>>> "We have an insatiable appetite for this drug - insatiable," Joseph T. Rannazzisi, a top DEA adminis-trator, told a group of pharmacists at a regulatory meeting in Sacramento. 
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>>> Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Grace Schmidt books evidence from an undercover prescription drug sting operation on a downtown Los Angeles street. 
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>>> _______________________________
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>>> Wayne A. Fox
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>>> wayne.a.fox at gmail.com
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