[Vision2020] September 11th Memorial Events
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 10 13:11:53 PDT 2011
After watching the progress of this exchange, I'm now with Paul.
Sunil
From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:12:59 -0700
To: godshatter at yahoo.com
CC: Vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] September 11th Memorial Events
Paul Rumelhart so eloquently elaborated:
"If that seem callous or unpatriotic to you, tough. I don't know you anyway, so fuck off."
It never ceases to amaze me how a chameleon, such as yourself, ultimately reveals his true colors.
Now, if you will excuse me, I must return to an off-list thread and interact with fellow V-peeps, unlike you, whose IQ exceeds their shoe size.
'Nuff said . . . in this venue, anyway.
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho "When all is said and done, have you done or said enough? Have you just gone along for the ride, or have you steered destiny's hotrod? When you leave this world, did you make it any better than it was when you arrived? All you need is all you've got: your wits and the clothes on your back. Your epitaph is yours to earn. Your legacy is yours to make."
- Author Unknown
On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:54, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
I wondered how long it would take before my patriotism was
questioned.
As I've said before, my heart goes out to those who lost somebody on
9/11. I'm going through a loss, myself. I can't really put it into
words, but it would be disingenuous of me to pretend that I feel the
same loss that I feel after my father's death for people I know
nothing about and have never met. It seem disrespectful both to my
father's memory and to those dealing with the direct loss of loved
ones. Honoring them with a moment of silence is one thing, actually
mourning for them should be left to those who knew them. I
understand that that's a bit irrational, but it is how I feel.
I can also understand honoring the first responders, they displayed
great heroism, as first responders do every day.
The attack on the World Trade Center has already been used to
manipulate us into two wars, and into giving up far too many
personal liberties. Making the remembrance of it into some kind of
litmus test for patriotism is just playing right into "their"
hands. Whose hands? The hands of whoever wants to whip us into a
frenzy about whatever their pet project is. Whether it's buying
commemorative items or getting ratings for their TV show or making
points against political rivals or giving up more of our rights,
I've had enough.
If that seem callous or unpatriotic to you, tough. I don't know you
anyway, so fuck off :)
Paul
On 09/10/2011 10:46 AM, Art Deco wrote:
Rumelhart writes:
"Besides, I didn't know anybody who
died there, not even second-hand."
What a wonderful,
community-minded/patriotic philosophy: If I don't know 'em,
fuck 'em!
All those who died, were
wounded, or had their lives adversely affected by the events
of 9/11? Don't know any. Fuck 'em!
All those vets who died, are
physically or mentally disabled, or whose service help to
cause family break-ups and other problems? Hardly know any.
Fuck 'em!
All those Canadian First Nation
Peoples with oil tar sands related greatly elevated cancer
risks? Don't know any. Fuck 'em!
All those victims of
earthquakes, hurricanes, wildfires? Don't know any. Fuck
'em!
All those children at risk for
sexual molestation because their fathers are pedophiles?
Don't know any. Fuck 'em!
Etc.
Paul, remember this name:
Walter Steed. As chair of the local Republican party, he will
happily put you in contact with other locals who share your
philosophy. They are called the Tea (Me) Party. They will
welcome those like you who do not let compassion and empathy
for their fellow inhabitants of the world get in the way of
their sterile, ill thought out principles.
w.
From: Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:13 AM
To: Moscow Cares
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] September 11th Memorial
Events
If it were a block party celebrating the deaths of the victims of
9/11, I'd agree with you. However, it's a block party welcoming
back UI and WSU students. I can't get too worked up about that.
Is it just me, or has this 9/11 remembrance day officially jumped
the shark? I'm not talking private individuals or local groups
meeting in remembrance or to discuss related topics. I'm all for
that, and my heart goes out to anyone who lost somebody during the
attacks. I'm talking about the people making who knows how much
money off of this tragedy. I thank the gods I don't have TV right
now, I'm sure it's over the top and has been for a week or more.
I feel like Charlie Brown lamenting the over-commercialization of
Christmas.
That's why I can't get outraged about someone having some kind of
event not related to the attacks.
Besides, I didn't know anybody who died there, not even
second-hand. My plans for tomorrow involve driving up to St.
Maries and sorting through more of my dad's stuff. He died in
November. He *is* someone I knew well.
Paul
On 09/10/2011 09:03 AM, Moscow Cares wrote:
No.
I simply find celebratory block parties on the tenth
anniversary of the 9/11 catastrophe (and the loss of 3,000+
lives) to be heartless beyond comprehension.
What's next? A Christmas break block party on December 7th
with bonfires (or are they gonna simply burn some crosses)?
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:41, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Are you of the opinion that nothing should be done tomorrow
that doesn't somehow relate to 9/11? By anybody?
Paul
On 09/10/2011 06:46 AM, Moscow Cares wrote:
Is anybody aware of any September 11th memorial
events taking place locally other than NuArt's
celebratory block party?
Courtesy of today's (September 10, 2011)
Spokesman-Review.
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A number of Sept. 11 memorial
events are planned in the Inland Northwest:
Today
• Salem Lutheran Church will
hold an ecumenical service of prayer and
lament to mourn the loss of life, lament
the rule of violence over the last decade, and
prayerfully seek peace for the decade to come. The
service will be held at 8 p.m. in the church at 1428
W. Broadway Ave.
• The Peace and Justice Action
League of Spokane invites the public to an
interactive,multimedia exhibit against
anti-Arab and anti-Muslim bigotry from noon
to 6 p.m. at the Community Building, 35 W. Main Ave.
Sunday
• The George
Nethercutt Foundation is organizing “An Hour of Remembrance” at
7 p.m. in the INB Performing Arts Center, 334 W.
Spokane Falls Blvd. Admission is free, and attendees
are encouraged to bring a hand-held flag. The event
will include a color guard, musical performances, a
moment of silence and an audience singalong. For
information, call (509) 995-6016.
• The Spokane Valley
Fire Department will place a 1,200-pound column from the
World Trade Center in the department’s new
administration building, which is under construction
at 2120 N. Wilbur Road. The column was presented to
the department by the Port Authority of New York and
New Jersey. Posting of the colors will begin at 6:40
a.m. For information, call (509) 928-1700.
• Kootenai County Fire and
Rescue will dedicate the organization’s new
training facility at 3:30 p.m. at 5271 E.
Seltice Way, Post Falls. The 10-acre campus includes a
training tower, specialized props, 300-seat classroom
and other buildings. For information, call Shaena
Dunn, (208) 676-8739ext. 125.
• The Coeur d’Alene police and
fire departments and branches of the military will
commemorate the anniversary with a ceremony at Fallen Heroes Plaza, 1500
N. 15th St. in Coeur d’Alene, from 1 p.m. to 2 p.m.,
followed by an emergency and armed services open house
until 5 p.m. For information contact the Coeur d’Alene
Fire Department at(208) 769-2245.
• More than 260 firefighters from
around the Inland Northwest will participate in theSpokane 9/11 Memorial Stair
Climb to honor members of the Fire
Department of New York who died on Sept. 11, 2001.
Participants will climb stairs at the Bank of America
Financial Center, 601 W. Riverside Ave., multiple
times to total the 110 stories in the twin towers. The
event begins with an honor guard at 9 a.m. and the
first teams will begin climbing at 9:30 a.m.
• Two free
performances of “The Guys” will be
presented at the Coeur d’Alene Public Library, 702 E.
Front Ave., at 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. “The Guys” is a memorial to “the shattered
psyche of post-Sept. 11 New York,” told
through the eyes of a fire captain and a journalist,
and is presented by the Bombay Cat Theatre Project.
Call (208) 769-2315ext. 426
for information.
• Mount Spokane is the site of
a “vortex ceremony and drumming
spiritual event”organized by Debra
Peterson. Participants should meet at Yoke’s grocery
store at 14202 N. Market St. by noon to carpool to
Mount Spokane. Entering the park requires a Discovery
Pass sticker for every vehicle; they can be purchased
for $10. Bring an item to share for a potluck lunch
after the ceremony. Call Peterson at (509) 276-4028for information.
• A Patriot’s Day
Memorial Ceremony will be at 1:30 p.m.
during the Spokane County Interstate Fair.
The march includes a bell ceremony and 21-gun salute,
and concludes in the Grandstand Arena. Local fire and
police departments will take part, as well as the
Spokane County Pipe and Drum Band. In addition, all
police, fire and military personnel will receive free
admission to the fair on Sept. 11 with proper
identification. For information, call (509) 477-2770.
• Ignite will present two
performances of local author Reed
McColm’s “Hole in the Sky,” a drama about
the 108 minutes between the time the first plane hit
the World Trade Center and the collapse of Tower One.
Performances are at 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. atInterplayers Theatre,
174 S. Howard St. There is no charge but donations
will be accepted for the National Fallen
Firefighters Fund.
• A 9/11 Remembrance Run will
take place from 7 a.m. to 4:11 p.m. at Medical Lake
Waterfront Park. Form a team of 10 and register on
Saturday from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. at Medical Lake High
School. One member of the team must be on the course
at all times. Call Keturah Guidry for information at (509) 599-2661.
• The Cutter Theatre in Metaline
Falls, Wash., will present a concert
titled “Windows on the World” at 2 p.m.,
featuring live music performances and a presentation
of John Adams’ “On the Transmigration of Souls.” The
theater is located at 302 Park St., Metaline Falls;
call (509) 446-4108for information.
• The pastors of St. Mary’s Catholic Church, Zion
Lutheran Church, Millwood Presbyterian Church and New Hope Bible Church will
come together for a special service at
4 p.m. at Zion Lutheran, 8304 E. Buckeye Ave. The
service will include Scripture-based meditations,
hymns and organ music.
• First Congregational Church of
Christ will host a “9/11 commemoration
of faith and hope” at 5 p.m., 205 N. Maple
in Colville. Call the church at (509) 684-4213 for information.
• Whitworth University will
hold a service of remembrance at 9 p.m. in the Seeley
G. Mudd Chapel on campus to provide an opportunity to
reflect in the impact of 9/11 and how we should live
and respond today.
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Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"When all is said and done, have you done or said
enough? Have you just gone along for the ride, or
have you steered destiny's hotrod? When you leave
this world, did you make it any better than it was
when you arrived? All you need is all you've got:
your wits and the clothes on your back. Your epitaph
is yours to earn. Your legacy is yours to make."
- Author Unknown
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