[Vision2020] September 11th Memorial Events
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 10 12:42:10 PDT 2011
You conveniently snipped off the smiley face. Nice demonstration of a
useful propaganda technique. If you didn't get the joke, the "fuck off"
part referred back to the "if you don't know 'em, fuck 'em!" attitude
Wayne seems to feel I have towards everything.
Should you feel brave enough or confident enough to air your thoughts on
the list, feel free. That's what it's there for.
Paul
On 09/10/2011 12:12 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Paul Rumelhart so eloquently elaborated:
>
> "If that seem callous or unpatriotic to you, tough. I don't know you
> anyway, so fuck off."
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how a chameleon, such as yourself,
> ultimately reveals his true colors.
>
> Now, if you will excuse me, I must return to an off-list thread and
> interact with fellow V-peeps, unlike you, whose IQ exceeds their shoe
> size.
>
> 'Nuff said . . . in this venue, anyway.
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> "When all is said and done, have you done or said enough? Have you
> just gone along for the ride, or have you steered destiny's hotrod?
> When you leave this world, did you make it any better than it was
> when you arrived? All you need is all you've got: your wits and the
> clothes on your back. Your epitaph is yours to earn. Your legacy is
> yours to make."
>
> - Author Unknown
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:54, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com
> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>> I wondered how long it would take before my patriotism was questioned.
>>
>> As I've said before, my heart goes out to those who lost somebody on
>> 9/11. I'm going through a loss, myself. I can't really put it into
>> words, but it would be disingenuous of me to pretend that I feel the
>> same loss that I feel after my father's death for people I know
>> nothing about and have never met. It seem disrespectful both to my
>> father's memory and to those dealing with the direct loss of loved
>> ones. Honoring them with a moment of silence is one thing, actually
>> mourning for them should be left to those who knew them. I
>> understand that that's a bit irrational, but it is how I feel.
>>
>> I can also understand honoring the first responders, they displayed
>> great heroism, as first responders do every day.
>>
>> The attack on the World Trade Center has already been used to
>> manipulate us into two wars, and into giving up far too many personal
>> liberties. Making the remembrance of it into some kind of litmus
>> test for patriotism is just playing right into "their" hands. Whose
>> hands? The hands of whoever wants to whip us into a frenzy about
>> whatever their pet project is. Whether it's buying commemorative
>> items or getting ratings for their TV show or making points against
>> political rivals or giving up more of our rights, I've had enough.
>>
>> If that seem callous or unpatriotic to you, tough. I don't know you
>> anyway, so fuck off :)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 09/10/2011 10:46 AM, Art Deco wrote:
>>> Rumelhart writes:
>>> "Besides, I didn't know anybody who died there, not even second-hand."
>>> What a wonderful, community-minded/patriotic philosophy: If I don't
>>> know 'em, fuck 'em!
>>> All those who died, were wounded, or had their lives adversely
>>> affected by the events of 9/11? Don't know any. Fuck 'em!
>>> All those vets who died, are physically or mentally disabled, or
>>> whose service help to cause family break-ups and other problems?
>>> Hardly know any. Fuck 'em!
>>> All those Canadian First Nation Peoples with oil tar sands related
>>> greatly elevated cancer risks? Don't know any. Fuck 'em!
>>> All those victims of earthquakes, hurricanes, wildfires? Don't know
>>> any. Fuck 'em!
>>> All those children at risk for sexual molestation because their
>>> fathers are pedophiles? Don't know any. Fuck 'em!
>>> Etc.
>>> Paul, remember this name: Walter Steed. As chair of the local
>>> Republican party, he will happily put you in contact with other
>>> locals who share your philosophy. They are called the Tea (Me)
>>> Party. They will welcome those like you who do not let compassion
>>> and empathy for their fellow inhabitants of the world get in the way
>>> of their sterile, ill thought out principles.
>>> w.
>>>
>>> *From:* Paul Rumelhart <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:13 AM
>>> *To:* Moscow Cares <mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com>
>>> *Cc:* Moscow Vision 2020 <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] September 11th Memorial Events
>>>
>>>
>>> If it were a block party celebrating the deaths of the victims of
>>> 9/11, I'd agree with you. However, it's a block party welcoming
>>> back UI and WSU students. I can't get too worked up about that.
>>>
>>> Is it just me, or has this 9/11 remembrance day officially jumped
>>> the shark? I'm not talking private individuals or local groups
>>> meeting in remembrance or to discuss related topics. I'm all for
>>> that, and my heart goes out to anyone who lost somebody during the
>>> attacks. I'm talking about the people making who knows how much
>>> money off of this tragedy. I thank the gods I don't have TV right
>>> now, I'm sure it's over the top and has been for a week or more.
>>>
>>> I feel like Charlie Brown lamenting the over-commercialization of
>>> Christmas.
>>>
>>> That's why I can't get outraged about someone having some kind of
>>> event not related to the attacks.
>>>
>>> Besides, I didn't know anybody who died there, not even
>>> second-hand. My plans for tomorrow involve driving up to St. Maries
>>> and sorting through more of my dad's stuff. He died in November.
>>> He *is* someone I knew well.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 09/10/2011 09:03 AM, Moscow Cares wrote:
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> I simply find celebratory block parties on the tenth anniversary of
>>>> the 9/11 catastrophe (and the loss of 3,000+ lives) to be heartless
>>>> beyond comprehension.
>>>>
>>>> What's next? A Christmas break block party on December 7th with
>>>> bonfires (or are they gonna simply burn some crosses)?
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:41, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com
>>>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you of the opinion that nothing should be done tomorrow that
>>>>> doesn't somehow relate to 9/11? By anybody?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/10/2011 06:46 AM, Moscow Cares wrote:
>>>>>> Is anybody aware of any September 11th memorial events taking
>>>>>> place locally other than NuArt's celebratory block party?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Courtesy of today's (September 10, 2011) Spokesman-Review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A number of Sept. 11 memorial events are planned in the
>>>>>> Inland Northwest:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • Salem Lutheran Church will hold an *ecumenical service of
>>>>>> prayer and lament *to mourn the loss of life, lament the rule of
>>>>>> violence over the last decade, and prayerfully seek peace for the
>>>>>> decade to come. The service will be held at 8 p.m. in the church
>>>>>> at 1428 W. Broadway Ave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • The Peace and Justice Action League of Spokane invites the
>>>>>> public to an interactive,*multimedia exhibit against anti-Arab
>>>>>> and anti-Muslim bigotry* from noon to 6 p.m. at the Community
>>>>>> Building, 35 W. Main Ave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *• *The George Nethercutt Foundation is organizing *“An Hour of
>>>>>> Remembrance” *at 7 p.m. in the INB Performing Arts Center, 334 W.
>>>>>> Spokane Falls Blvd. Admission is free, and attendees are
>>>>>> encouraged to bring a hand-held flag. The event will include a
>>>>>> color guard, musical performances, a moment of silence and an
>>>>>> audience singalong. For information, call (509) 995-6016
>>>>>> <tel:%28509%29%C2%A0995-6016>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *• The Spokane Valley Fire Department *will place a *1,200-pound
>>>>>> column from the World Trade Center *in the department’s new
>>>>>> administration building, which is under construction at 2120 N.
>>>>>> Wilbur Road. The column was presented to the department by the
>>>>>> Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Posting of the colors
>>>>>> will begin at 6:40 a.m. For information, call (509) 928-1700
>>>>>> <tel:%28509%29%C2%A0928-1700>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • Kootenai County Fire and Rescue will *dedicate the
>>>>>> organization’s new training facility *at 3:30 p.m. at 5271 E.
>>>>>> Seltice Way, Post Falls. The 10-acre campus includes a training
>>>>>> tower, specialized props, 300-seat classroom and other buildings.
>>>>>> For information, call Shaena Dunn, (208) 676-8739
>>>>>> <tel:%28208%29%20676-8739>ext. 125.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • The Coeur d’Alene police and fire departments and branches of
>>>>>> the military will commemorate the anniversary with a *ceremony at
>>>>>> Fallen Heroes Plaza,* 1500 N. 15th St. in Coeur d’Alene, from 1
>>>>>> p.m. to 2 p.m., followed by an emergency and armed services open
>>>>>> house until 5 p.m. For information contact the Coeur d’Alene Fire
>>>>>> Department at(208) 769-2245 <tel:%28208%29%C2%A0769-2245>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • More than *260 firefighters *from around the Inland Northwest
>>>>>> will participate in the*Spokane 9/11 Memorial Stair Climb *to
>>>>>> honor members of the Fire Department of New York who died on
>>>>>> Sept. 11, 2001. Participants will climb stairs at the Bank of
>>>>>> America Financial Center, 601 W. Riverside Ave., multiple times
>>>>>> to total the 110 stories in the twin towers. The event begins
>>>>>> with an honor guard at 9 a.m. and the first teams will begin
>>>>>> climbing at 9:30 a.m.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • *Two free performances *of “The Guys” will be presented at the
>>>>>> Coeur d’Alene Public Library, 702 E. Front Ave., at 2 p.m. and 7
>>>>>> p.m. “The Guys” is a *memorial to “the shattered psyche of
>>>>>> post-Sept. 11 New York,”* told through the eyes of a fire captain
>>>>>> and a journalist, and is presented by the Bombay Cat Theatre
>>>>>> Project. Call (208) 769-2315 <tel:%28208%29%20769-2315>ext. 426
>>>>>> for information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • Mount Spokane is the site of a *“vortex ceremony and drumming
>>>>>> spiritual event”*organized by Debra Peterson. Participants should
>>>>>> meet at Yoke’s grocery store at 14202 N. Market St. by noon to
>>>>>> carpool to Mount Spokane. Entering the park requires a Discovery
>>>>>> Pass sticker for every vehicle; they can be purchased for $10.
>>>>>> Bring an item to share for a potluck lunch after the ceremony.
>>>>>> Call Peterson at (509) 276-4028
>>>>>> <tel:%28509%29%20276-4028>for information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • A *Patriot’s Day Memorial Ceremony *will be at 1:30 p.m. during
>>>>>> the *Spokane County Interstate Fair*. The march includes a bell
>>>>>> ceremony and 21-gun salute, and concludes in the Grandstand
>>>>>> Arena. Local fire and police departments will take part, as well
>>>>>> as the Spokane County Pipe and Drum Band. In addition, all
>>>>>> police, fire and military personnel will receive free admission
>>>>>> to the fair on Sept. 11 with proper identification. For
>>>>>> information, call (509) 477-2770 <tel:%28509%29%C2%A0477-2770>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • Ignite will present two performances of *local author Reed
>>>>>> McColm’s “Hole in the Sky,”* a drama about the 108 minutes
>>>>>> between the time the first plane hit the World Trade Center and
>>>>>> the collapse of Tower One. Performances are at 2 p.m. and 7 p.m.
>>>>>> at*Interplayers Theatre*, 174 S. Howard St. There is no charge
>>>>>> but donations will be accepted for the National Fallen
>>>>>> Firefighters Fund.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • A *9/11 Remembrance Run *will take place from 7 a.m. to 4:11
>>>>>> p.m. at Medical Lake Waterfront Park. Form a team of 10 and
>>>>>> register on Saturday from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. at Medical Lake High
>>>>>> School. One member of the team must be on the course at all
>>>>>> times. Call Keturah Guidry for information at (509) 599-2661
>>>>>> <tel:%28509%29%C2%A0599-2661>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • The Cutter Theatre in Metaline Falls, Wash., will present a
>>>>>> *concert titled “Windows on the World” *at 2 p.m., featuring live
>>>>>> music performances and a presentation of John Adams’ “On the
>>>>>> Transmigration of Souls.” The theater is located at 302 Park St.,
>>>>>> Metaline Falls; call (509) 446-4108
>>>>>> <tel:%28509%29%20446-4108>for information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • The pastors of *St. Mary’s Catholic Church, Zion Lutheran
>>>>>> Church, Millwood Presbyterian Church *and *New Hope Bible Church
>>>>>> *will come together for a *special service* at 4 p.m. at Zion
>>>>>> Lutheran, 8304 E. Buckeye Ave. The service will include
>>>>>> Scripture-based meditations, hymns and organ music.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • First Congregational Church of Christ will host a *“9/11
>>>>>> commemoration of faith and hope”* at 5 p.m., 205 N. Maple in
>>>>>> Colville. Call the church at (509) 684-4213
>>>>>> <tel:%28509%29%20684-4213> for information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> • *Whitworth University *will hold a service of remembrance at 9
>>>>>> p.m. in the Seeley G. Mudd Chapel on campus to provide an
>>>>>> opportunity to reflect in the impact of 9/11 and how we should
>>>>>> live and respond today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>> "When all is said and done, have you done or said enough? Have
>>>>>> you just gone along for the ride, or have you steered destiny's
>>>>>> hotrod? When you leave this world, did you make it any better
>>>>>> than it was when you arrived? All you need is all you've got:
>>>>>> your wits and the clothes on your back. Your epitaph is yours to
>>>>>> earn. Your legacy is yours to make."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Author Unknown
>>>>>>
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