[Vision2020] Legislative Redistricting and theNorthIdaho"Compromise"
Chuck Kovis
ckovis at turbonet.com
Thu Sep 8 09:58:36 PDT 2011
I'll say. Those damn French can't do anything right. Chuck Kovis
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From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>;
"Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Legislative Redistricting and
theNorthIdaho"Compromise"
>I do not particularly like any of the plans. One should start by totally
>ignoring any parisian considerations. The criteria should be 1. to keep
>counties whole as much as possible. 2. easy access to all parts of the
>district, without going through another district. 3. similar interests of
>the constituents. It is impossible to satisfy all three, therefore a
>compromise need to be found that comes the closest to satisfying the
>requirements. I think the court is going to kick it back to the commission
>and tell them to try again. The problem areas seem to be Boise and North
>Idaho(Latah).
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 18:19:15 -0700
> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com, "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com, "Moscow
> Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Legislative Redistricting and the
> NorthIdaho"Compromise"
>
>> Well I certainly agree. Wonder what was wrong with Evan Frasier's? I
>> thought it was pretty good...the best one they considered, I think.
>>
>> Sue H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lfalen
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:07 PM
>> To: Tom Hansen ; Moscow Vision 2020
>> Cc: Friends of the Clearwater ; Fritz Knorr ; Jeanne McHale ; Brett
>> Haverstick ; Marilyn Beckett ; Cheryl Halverson ; Penni Cyr ; Wild Idaho
>> Rising Tide ; Helen Yost
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Legislative Redistricting and the
>> NorthIdaho"Compromise"
>>
>> This compromise plan is just as bad or worse than the original Democrat
>> plan. If part of Latah is to go with Clearwater, it should only be
>> Juiaetta
>> and Kendrick.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
>> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 07:46:11 -0700
>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Legislative Redistricting and the North
>> Idaho"Compromise"
>>
>> > Courtesy of today's (September 7, 2011) Spokesman-Review.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Panel fails to draw districts by deadline
>> >
>> > Idaho commission likely to be ordered back to work
>> >
>> > BOISE - Idaho's bipartisan citizen redistricting commission failed
>> > Tuesday
>> > to agree on new legislative and congressional districts by its
>> > constitutionally set deadline, forcing the issue into the courts.
>> >
>> > "I think the citizens of the state are going to be disgusted that we
>> > cannot
>> > get to a solution here when we're down to just a handful of areas," GOP
>> > Commissioner Lorna Finman, of Rathdrum, pleaded as the clock ticked
>> > away
>> > Tuesday. "We are so close on this map. . There needed to be a little
>> > give
>> > and take."
>> >
>> > Said GOP Co-Chairman Evan Frasure, of Pocatello, "It's a shame that we
>> > couldn't get there."
>> >
>> > Idaho Secretary of State Ben Ysursa said he's ready to sue first thing
>> > today
>> > in the Idaho Supreme Court. "Papers are prepared," he said.
>> >
>> > Without new legislative and congressional district lines, Idaho has
>> > lines
>> > from 10 years ago that don't reflect the big population shifts since
>> > then
>> > and therefore don't comply with the U.S. Constitution's one-person,
>> > one-vote
>> > rule. Ysursa said he expects the court to order the commission back to
>> > work.
>> >
>> > Finman and Democratic Commissioner Julie Kane, of Lapwai, reached
>> > agreement
>> > early Tuesday on a new legislative district plan for North Idaho that
>> > drew
>> > praise from all the other commissioners, but the panel wasn't ready to
>> > vote
>> > on just that piece without agreement on the rest of the state.
>> >
>> > That plan would force North Idaho Sens. Shawn Keough, R-Sandpoint, and
>> > Joyce
>> > Broadsword, R-Sagle, into a face-off in the GOP primary if both want to
>> > stay
>> > in office; it would also put several current incumbent House members
>> > from
>> > North Idaho into competition with each other. But the plan won praise
>> > as
>> > being reflective of public testimony from North Idaho about how new
>> > district
>> > lines should be drawn.
>> >
>> > The North Idaho compromise plan doesn't split precincts and doesn't
>> > violate
>> > the rule that districts must be connected by highways. GOP Commissioner
>> > Lou
>> > Esposito thanked Finman and Kane, saying, "I believe if we go back and
>> > look
>> > at the testimony that we received up north that it gives incredible
>> > weight
>> > to that testimony, and I applaud both of you."
>> >
>> > Finman and Kane, the only two women on the six-member panel, offered
>> > over
>> > the weekend to mediate between the feuding male members as the panel
>> > worked
>> > through the holiday. Democratic Co-Chairman Allen Andersen said he
>> > liked
>> > the
>> > idea, saying it would "get all of the testosterone out of it." GOP
>> > Commissioner Lou Esposito said, "If that's what it takes, I'm all for
>> > it."
>> >
>> > But even that mediation failed to bring the two sides together in time.
>> > By
>> > Tuesday afternoon, Esposito was calling a Democratic proposal for
>> > legislative district lines in Ada County "an abomination," and "the
>> > definition of gerrymander." Democratic Commissioner George Moses blamed
>> > the
>> > Republicans for the breakdown.
>> >
>> > In 1994, Idaho voters amended the state constitution to take
>> > redistricting
>> > out of lawmakers' hands and give it to a bipartisan citizen commission,
>> > which is meeting publicly and which held hearings around the state
>> > before
>> > trying its hand at new maps.
>> >
>> > The first commission, a decade ago, reached a plan in 76 days, but it
>> > was
>> > overturned in court amid multiple lawsuits; in the end, that commission
>> > settled on a plan that held but included unpopular, sprawling districts
>> > in
>> > North Idaho and southeastern Idaho. The state constitution sets a
>> > 90-day
>> > limit.
>> >
>> > ----------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The North Idaho compromise
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The North Idaho compromise legislative district map, L-71, developed by
>> > GOP
>> > Commissioner Lorna Finman of Rathdrum, and Democratic Commissioner
>> > Julie
>> > Kane, of Lapwai puts Boundary County and the majority of Bonner County,
>> > including the entire Clark Fork area, into District 1. District 2
>> > contains
>> > the southernmost precincts of Bonner County plus northern parts of
>> > Kootenai
>> > County. "That's a very similar community of interest, kind of rural
>> > small-town area," Finman said. District 3 contains the core of Coeur
>> > d'Alene, while District 4 has mostly Post Falls and the Rathdrum area.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > District 5 consists of Shoshone County and parts of Benewah, Kootenai
>> > and
>> > Latah counties, including the Moscow area, along with most of the Coeur
>> > d'Alene Reservation. District 6 pairs two rural Latah County precincts
>> > with
>> > all of Nez Perce County and part of Lewis County, and includes most of
>> > the
>> > Nez Perce reservation; while District 7 has part of Benewah County
>> > along
>> > with all of Clearwater and Idaho counties, and part of Lewis County.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The plan would mean at least four North Idaho incumbent legislators
>> > would
>> > lose their seats. Sens. Shawn Keough, R-Sandpoint, and Joyce
>> > Broadsword,
>> > R-Sagle, would end up in the same district, forcing a face-off in the
>> > GOP
>> > primary if they both want to stay in office. In the proposed new
>> > District
>> > 2,
>> > there would be three incumbent state representatives vying for two
>> > seats:
>> > Reps. Phil Hart, R-Athol; Vito Barbieri, R-Dalton Gardens; and Marge
>> > Chadderdon, R-Coeur d'Alene. In the proposed new District 5, there
>> > would
>> > be
>> > four incumbents vying for two House seats: Reps. Tom Trail, R-Moscow;
>> > Shirley Ringo, D-Moscow; Dick Harwood, R-St. Maries; and Shannon
>> > McMillan,
>> > R-Silverton.
>> >
>> > ----------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The proposed North Idaho "Compromise"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > NorthIdahoCompromise_L71_B.jpg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Counties shall not be divided to protect a particular political party
>> > or
>> > a
>> > particular incumbent."
>> >
>> > http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title72/T72CH15SECT72-1506.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> >
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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