[Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem

[Andreas Schou]

Again: there's no "we" here -- and if there is, you don't have a stake
in it. It costs nothing to change the name, other than annoying you
just slightly if you happen to hear about it. It aggravates, offends,
and wounds a substantial minority otherwise.

It seems like the balance of harms is distinctly against you.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I was using "we" in a society-inclusive way.  We (as a society) should
> either whitewash everything or we (as a society) should grow thicker skin.
>  We (as a society) appear to have chosen the first option, which I
> personally think is foolish.
>
> Paul
>
> On 10/03/2011 10:02 AM, Andreas Schou wrote:
>>
>> Notwithstanding my objection to spreading naked etymological lies:
>>
>> You're not "we," Paul. You are utterly unaffected by the issue.
>>
>> -- ACS
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Paul Rumelhart<godshatter at yahoo.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> My sometimes roundabout way of making a point isn't endearing me to some
>>> of
>>> the readership out there in Viz-land, so I'll just come out and make my
>>> point.  Which is that almost everything is offensive to someone on some
>>> level, and those things that are not currently offensive may become
>>> offensive in the future because language and culture changes.  We have
>>> two
>>> choices as I see it - either we whitewash everything to the point that we
>>> might as well not have mascots or place names more descriptive than
>>> "Idaho
>>> Creek 1347", or we grow a thicker skin and not get so worked up about
>>> these
>>> kinds of things.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Tom Hansen<thansen at moscow.com>
>>> To: Kenneth Marcy<kmmos1 at frontier.com>
>>> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com"<vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem
>>>
>>> Mr. Rumelhart -
>>>
>>> If victims of bear/cougar attacks or descendants of fourth- or
>>> fifth-century
>>> Roman ancestry feel disrespected by the University of California
>>> (Berkeley)
>>> mascot . . . or the Washington State University mascot . . . or the
>>> University of Idaho mascot . . . like us, they are free to exercise their
>>> first amendment right and loudly (and proudly) express their discomfort
>>> with
>>> those mascots.
>>>
>>> Tom "not holding his breath" Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49, Kenneth Marcy<kmmos1 at frontier.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 03, 2011 07:26:10 AM Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It makes you wonder if someday descendants of the people murdered by an
>>>>> ancient East Germanic tribe when they sacked Rome and Carthage might
>>>>> someday look in horror upon a small college town in Idaho that had the
>>>>> gall to name their sports team after their killers.
>>>>
>>>> The biggest problem with the Vandals sacking Rome is that they didn't do
>>>> it
>>>> often enough. It's too bad they didn't get to Nicaea and Constantinople
>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>> century and a quarter prior to the Roman sack, as that may have
>>>> prevented
>>>> a
>>>> lot of grief all around.
>>>>
>>>>> Same thing with people that have been mauled by cougars or bears.
>>>>
>>>> The descendants have less about which to complain in face of the
>>>> realities
>>>> of
>>>> their ancient enemies being hunted and heated to extinction.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
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