[Vision2020] Bill Moore - First Step Internet

[ML394]

Darrell: 

I'm glad that you're getting educated about 21st century privacy.  And
I meant it when I said that I heard First Step Internet is going out
of business.  A lawsuit for slander could put any small company like
First Step Internet out of business.

Also, I didn't know that the Moscow Chamber of Commerce hires snarky
staff members like yourself.  But that's good for business, right? 
But when the Moscow chamber is promoting our town, a quick search
through the 2020 posts can find out what you have to say, how
sarcastic you are to others.  "When did 7th graders take over the
chamber of commerce?" will be the big question businesses ask when
they decide on taking their business elsewhere.

Good job, darrell.
On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Darrell Keim  wrote:Ya
mean to say that people can read the things I writ and are written
'bout
me on a public board!?!

Well, shucks.  I am mighty glad you took this courageous anonymous
stand,
ML394!

*Shame* on First Step for providing us with a valuable free service,
and
not doing it how y'all think is *proper.*

It is good of you to eddycate us po' innocent rubes about the danger
of
postings on the internut.

And you were so clever by starting with your own fake post about First
Step
to make your point!

 I sure hope your occupation turns out as well as the others!
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:11 PM, ML394  wrote:

> My name is John Q. Public.  My name is the name of anyone who gets
talked
> about on this forum and has their reputation smeared on the search
> engines.  My name is your name, Tom.  My name is OCCUPY VISION 2020,
taking
> a stand against First Step Internet for promoting slanderous
comments on
> the internet and taking no responsibility for the harm that does to
real
> people.
>
> The truth is that corporations like First Step Internet need to be
held
> accountable for their actions and the use of its online technology
to allow
> anonymous smears of real people.
>
> The Vision 2020 policy of having all posts tracked by search engines
needs
> to be changed.  First Step Internet can make sure that no search
engines
> track the forum posts.  Why do people on the internet need to have
access
> to the local posts on the forum?  That's not freedom, it is slander
with
> technology.
>
> Change the policy.  Freedom of speech within the forum is fine, but
having
> the freedom to slander others across the internet should not be
allowed by
> First Step Internet.  All First Step has to do is simply make the
forum's
> posts untrackable by search engines.  Nothing else on the forum
would
> change.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Tom Hansen 
> wrote:
>
> And your name is . . . ?
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
> On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:16 PM, "ML394"  wrote:
>
> > What I heard about First Step Internet is this:
> >
> > Due to the way the forum posts are being tracked by Google these
days,
> anyone can come on this forum and claim to be a person who they are
not.
> Anyone can say anything about someone else (even slander them) and
those
> posts will be tracked by Google and connected to the name of the
slandered
> person.
> >
> > In fact, most of the email addresses used to post to this forum
could
> never be tracked or traced to the name on the forum post. There is
no easy
> way to prove that any of the forum members are who they claim to be.
> >
> > So, if someone were to claim on this forum to be BILL MOORE, who
loves
> to steal money, commit crimes and wants others to share in his life
of
> self-debasement, there would be no way to prove that BILL MOORE did
not
> author the post. And yet the slander remains online. And we all know
that
> Bill Moore of First Step Internet is hardly a degenerate. He is one
of the
> most upstanding people in the area, a man who stands for freedom of
speech
> and the freedom to slander people, too.
> >
> > First Step Internet assumes no liability for the posts on this
forum,
> but according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation hosting a forum
which
> enables members to slander people by name and not just by their
screen name
> creates a legal liability for the hosting company. In this case,
First Step
> Internet is legally responsible for actually promoting the Vision
2020
> forum on Google and other search engines. First Step Internet is
legally
> responsible for the slander its members write about others.
> >
> > The way I look at it, the longer First Step Internet lets Google
track
> the slanderous comments that have been made on the forum the greater
the
> liability. And First Step Internet would be out of business quickly.
> >
> > While I appreciate how important First Step Internet has been in
the
> development of government-funded, rural internet access and the
development
> of Vision 2020, I am certain that First Step Internet would be
better off
> (from a legal standpoint) making Vision 2020 a private forum that
promotes
> free speech but does not allow search engines to track the content
of its
> posts.
> > =======================================================
> > List services made available by First Step Internet,
> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> > http://www.fsr.net
> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
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>
>
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>  List services made available by First Step Internet,
>  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>               http://www.fsr.net
>          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
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