[Vision2020] Bill Moore - First Step Internet

[Darrell Keim]

Ya mean to say that people can read the things I writ and are written 'bout
me on a public board!?!

Well, shucks.  I am mighty glad you took this courageous anonymous stand,
ML394!

*Shame* on First Step for providing us with a valuable free service, and
not doing it how y'all think is *proper.*

It is good of you to eddycate us po' innocent rubes about the danger of
postings on the internut.

And you were so clever by starting with your own fake post about First Step
to make your point!

 I sure hope your occupation turns out as well as the others!
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:11 PM, ML394 <ml394 at hushmail.com> wrote:

> My name is John Q. Public.  My name is the name of anyone who gets talked
> about on this forum and has their reputation smeared on the search
> engines.  My name is your name, Tom.  My name is OCCUPY VISION 2020, taking
> a stand against First Step Internet for promoting slanderous comments on
> the internet and taking no responsibility for the harm that does to real
> people.
>
> The truth is that corporations like First Step Internet need to be held
> accountable for their actions and the use of its online technology to allow
> anonymous smears of real people.
>
> The Vision 2020 policy of having all posts tracked by search engines needs
> to be changed.  First Step Internet can make sure that no search engines
> track the forum posts.  Why do people on the internet need to have access
> to the local posts on the forum?  That's not freedom, it is slander with
> technology.
>
> Change the policy.  Freedom of speech within the forum is fine, but having
> the freedom to slander others across the internet should not be allowed by
> First Step Internet.  All First Step has to do is simply make the forum's
> posts untrackable by search engines.  Nothing else on the forum would
> change.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> wrote:
>
> And your name is . . . ?
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
> On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:16 PM, "ML394" <ml394 at hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What I heard about First Step Internet is this:
> >
> > Due to the way the forum posts are being tracked by Google these days,
> anyone can come on this forum and claim to be a person who they are not.
> Anyone can say anything about someone else (even slander them) and those
> posts will be tracked by Google and connected to the name of the slandered
> person.
> >
> > In fact, most of the email addresses used to post to this forum could
> never be tracked or traced to the name on the forum post. There is no easy
> way to prove that any of the forum members are who they claim to be.
> >
> > So, if someone were to claim on this forum to be BILL MOORE, who loves
> to steal money, commit crimes and wants others to share in his life of
> self-debasement, there would be no way to prove that BILL MOORE did not
> author the post. And yet the slander remains online. And we all know that
> Bill Moore of First Step Internet is hardly a degenerate. He is one of the
> most upstanding people in the area, a man who stands for freedom of speech
> and the freedom to slander people, too.
> >
> > First Step Internet assumes no liability for the posts on this forum,
> but according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation hosting a forum which
> enables members to slander people by name and not just by their screen name
> creates a legal liability for the hosting company. In this case, First Step
> Internet is legally responsible for actually promoting the Vision 2020
> forum on Google and other search engines. First Step Internet is legally
> responsible for the slander its members write about others.
> >
> > The way I look at it, the longer First Step Internet lets Google track
> the slanderous comments that have been made on the forum the greater the
> liability. And First Step Internet would be out of business quickly.
> >
> > While I appreciate how important First Step Internet has been in the
> development of government-funded, rural internet access and the development
> of Vision 2020, I am certain that First Step Internet would be better off
> (from a legal standpoint) making Vision 2020 a private forum that promotes
> free speech but does not allow search engines to track the content of its
> posts.
> > =======================================================
> > List services made available by First Step Internet,
> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> > http://www.fsr.net
> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
> > =======================================================
>
>
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>  List services made available by First Step Internet,
>  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>               http://www.fsr.net
>          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
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