[Vision2020] Freeze Church DVD mailing

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri Nov 4 18:11:40 PDT 2011


Excellent question, Darrell.

I did not receive the "postcard".  Nor did I receive the DVD.  It would be interesting to compare their respective mailing lists.  It might be a good idea for anybody that has received the DVD to report it to the Moscow Police Department.

The offer remains in affect . . .

http://www.moscowcares.com/hero/postcard_hoax.htm
 
Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho



On Nov 4, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It would be interesting to know if the same people receiving this DVD are the people that got the Bouma postcard last year.
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> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
> What a cruel way to try to make a point.  I know many people who do not believe in abortion who would never, ever stoop to this coercive behavior.  If people in the Freeze Church choose this message as a way to make their point, shame on them.  It certainly explains a lot about their lack of compassion for those who might disagree.
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> Sue H.
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> From: Darrell Keim
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 4:56 PM
> To: Paul Rumelhart
> Cc: Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Freeze Church DVD mailing
>  
> I watched the video.  Make no mistake, Paul-this video does not explain their beliefs on anything but abortion.  Nor does it back those beliefs with scripture.  It is strictly an anti-abortion video.
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> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> "The same as all the rest of the crackpots in the area that claim to have that ultimate truth that no one else does, and if you don't believe everything they say (and tacitly: give them money), then you are SOL for eternity."
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> You seem to take great pains to denigrate true believers as if they were evil conspirators set on bringing down society for their own twisted pleasures and financial gain.
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> This particular group doesn't strike me as living high on the hog, so I wouldn't classify them with the multimillion dollar televangelists.  They look more like a bunch of regular Joes that presumably truly believe what they are saying, and they care strongly enough about it to scrape enough together to mass-mail DVD's explaining their beliefs.  I don't find that so onerous, and it can even be seen as a caring gesture if you look at it from that perspective.  
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> That being said, their beliefs are so dissimilar to my own beliefs that it's like we are on two different planets trying to communicate without knowing the others language.  My own beliefs don't require evangelization, and I often wish that other religions didn't require it, either.  Nevertheless, I accept their evangelism in the same way that I accept my friends rantings about the evils of Apple or my other friends in-depth descriptions of the design and construction of bee hive boxes: resignedly.  Presumably that's how my friends accept my constant discussion of various at-home programming projects I'm working on or my rantings about climate science.
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> Paul
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