[Vision2020] Tell Me The Difference

Wed May 18 21:43:04 PDT 2011

Yes, according to Cultmaster Wilson's so-called theology and the logical conclusions that can be drawn from it,  almost everyone is SOL when it comes to salvation and being able to buddy it up with God, Jesus, and the rest of the glorious gang including Wilson for eternity.

However, Wilson has an even more radical plan to enforce doctrinal purity.  Pasted below is Greg Dickison's now infamous essay "Your Eye Shall not Pity" which appeared in the cults journal Credenda/Agenda, the journal that discusses the cult's world view and how they plan to achieve it, and for which Wilson is/was the editor-in-chief.

If you are not doctrinally pure (read: espouse Wilson's particular theological views and practices), then you should be executed.  And without pity.  Isn't that a wonderfully generous position to be held by someone who alleges he believes that his alleged God is omnibenevolent?

also quite revealing is the following:

"... which Pastor Wilson believes would send them to Hell if they truly believed them the way the Catholic Church teaches them, such as the Church's teaching on the veneration of Holy Images, which he holds to be idolatry."

Even a dull child of five knows that there is a difference between a word and the object it denotes.  "Jesus" the word is different from Jesus the man.  Similarly, there is a difference between a visual or material representation, which like a word, is a symbol pointing to Jesus and Jesus the man himself.  A statute of Jesus is different from Jesus himself.  Only a fool or a very subnormal human would or could confuse the two.

People like Wilson himself who use the word "Jesus" do not worship the word but the object, the man Jesus, it denotes.  Similarly, people generally do not worship the material symbols like paintings and statutes that represent Jesus, but Jesus himself.  Such people are not worshiping idols, but worshipping Jesus.  The symbols are pointers just like words.

Sometimes very emotional and not real bright people fail to distinguish between symbols and the objects they represent.  The classic example is that of a country bumpkin who, unable to distinguish between an actor as a man and the role he plays, runs up onto the stage in the middle of a play and knocks the actor playing the villain down because the bumpkin is offended by the treatment by the villain of the actress playing the role of the heroine.

Confusion of a symbol with the object denoted is such a transparent fallacy that it is extremely improbable that Wilson is unaware of the fallaciousness of his position.

However, like many other of his transparently fallacious positions, he continues to hold and argue for it.  Why?

"There's one born every minute."  "A fool and his money are soon parted."

Wilson has lived high on the hog, travel extensively, basked in (sometimes enforced or contrived) adoration, and exercised great power over many people's lives. with his line of transparently fallacious mumbo jumbo.  In my opinion, such behavior in the light of Wilson's transparently credulous theology makes Wilson a con artist and his religious views the hook.  When someone says "We are the saints, the rest of the world are sinners," use one hand to protect your wallet or purse and the other hand to protect your genitals.

Credulous people who cannot or do not wish to apply reason and thus fall for fanciful stories are easy marks.  I see no difference between Wilson's ovine flock and those who believe that Judgment Day is May 21st, except the latter do not appear to demand doctrinal purity or death.

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Magistralis

Your Eye Shall Not Pity

Greg Dickison

The civil magistrate is the minister of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer (Rom.

13:4). God has not left his civil minister without guidance on how to exercise his

office. The Scriptures set forth clear standards of judgment for many offenses. Capital

crimes, for example, include premeditated killing (murder), kidnapping, sorcery,

bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, and cursing one's parents (Ex. 21:14; 21:16;

22:18; 22:19; Lev. 20:10; 20:13; Ex. 21:17).

In contemporary American jurisprudence, none of these offenses is punishable by death, with the

occasional exception of murder. The magistrates have dispensed with God's standards of justice.

Some Christians believe this is an improvement. They would be horrified to think that the "harsh"

penalties of the law should still be applied. Sometimes this is the result of the mistaken belief that

the Old Testament has no further application after the advent of Christ. This is an exegetical

problem. Too often, it is the result of a sinful view of the criminal. This sin is called pity.

Pity is a compassionate and sympathetic response to another's distress. It manifests itself by some

action deemed to be beneficent to the one who is the object of the pity. It is characterized by the

thought, "There, but for the grace of God, go I." So what is wrong with that? Why is pity a sin?

First, pity is not always a sin. But neither is it always good. The Bible teaches that the moral

character of pity depends on the context in which it is exercised.

He who has pity on the poor lends to the Lord, and He will pay back what he has given (Prov.

19:17). Pity toward the poor is good. David was condemned by God when he did not take pity on

Uriah, a poor man (2 Sam. 12:110). David sought pity when he was under the reproach of his

enemies (Ps. 69:20). It would have been a comfort to him in his adversity. If God had not taken

pity on His people, we would all be lost in our sins (Is. 63:9).

There are also examples of God's refusal to have pity, as when Jerusalem defiled His sanctuary

(Ez. 5:11). Likewise, God included in the law specific prohibitions against the exercise of pity in

meting out punishment.

If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or

your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and serve other

gods,". . . you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you

spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him . . . (Deut. 13:69).

But if anyone hates his neighbor, lies in wait for him, rises against him and strikes him mortally,

so that he dies, and he flees to one of these cities, then the elders of his city shall send and bring

him from there, and deliver him over to the hand of the avenger of blood, that he may die. Your

eye shall not pity him, but you shall put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that it may

go well with you (Deut. 19:1113).

If a false witness rises against any man to testify against him of wrongdoing, then both men in the

controversy shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges who serve in those

days. And the judges shall make diligent inquiry, and indeed, if the witness is a false witness, who

has testified falsely against his brother, then you shall do to him as he thought to have done to his

brother, so you shall put away the evil person from among you. Your eye shall not pity . . . (Deut.

19.1619, 21).

If two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of

the one attacking him, and puts out the hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off

her hand; your eye shall not pity her (Deut. 25:11, 12).

The tendency of modern American law is to look at whether the particular criminal deserves the

penalty involved. Witnesses are brought in (usually the defendant's mother) to say that Johnny is

really a good boy who just got in with the wrong crowd and deserves another chance. Or the

judge considers whether the accused is sorry for what he did. Those who side with the victim can

go to the other extreme; the prosecutor is allowed to bring in witnesses to testify to what a great

guy the victim was, or to the impact of the crime on the victim's family. Justice becomes a contest

to see which side can generate the most pity.

God commands the judge to evaluate the crime rather than the criminal. If the crime is one for

which God requires death, then death must be the punishment. Your eye shall not pity. Neither is

the repentance of the accused relevant to the imposition of the sentence. When it was discovered

that Achan had kept some of the spoil of Jericho, Joshua beseeched him to repent. And Achan

answered Joshua and said, `Indeed, I have sinned against the Lord God of Israel, and this is

what I have done . . . (Josh. 7:19-20). After Achan confessed, he was still stoned to death.

Thus, the Bible teaches that pity is not an option where God has decided the matter. The

magistrate, God's minister, is to faithfully execute justice according to God's standard, not man's.

What the Bible does not teach is that the preaching of the gospel and repentance have no place on

death row. Indeed, it is hard to imagine a place where there is a more immediate need of grace,

and a presentation of the gospel should be the first response of Christians to those who are

condemned. But condemnation still must come if we are to be obedient to God's Word. We must

respond to the wrongdoer biblically in both judgment and grace.

This means that we must return to an obedience which confines pity within the bounds which

God has established for us.

Credenda/Agenda Vol. 3, No. 9

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: S.M. Ghazanfar 
  To: Art Deco 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tell Me The Difference

  Doug Wilson's other candidates for hell:  all l.8 billion Muslims, about a billion Hindus, about a billion Confucists/Budhists, and, of course, the atheists/agnostics, and all those 'other' Christians, etc. etc. -- and that means almost the entire global population (about 7 billion)......it will be such a diverse group, though.

  On 5/18/2011 19:05, Art Deco wrote: 
    What is the difference in the levels of crackpotiness and intolerance between the Potlatch Preacher, Lloyd Knerr at the Freeze Church who claims that all Mormons will go to hell and Cultmaster/Parson Douglas Wilson who claims that all Catholics would believe the doctrines of that church will go to hell?

    Isn't wonderful that we have two such gifted persons who knows exactly what some alleged God has determined as far as alleged salvation goes?  Isn't it wonderful that Wilson can also maintain that salvation depends on "a true faith in Jesus" but also hold, as a Calvinist, that whether someone will achieve salvation was determined by God at the moment of creation?  [Of course the only "true faith in Jesus" is the one Wilson preaches.  Preacher Knerr also thinks that he is preaching the only "true faith in Jesus."]

    Wasn't/Isn't it wonderful and heartwarming that some alleged omnipotent, omniscient God made so clear and unequivocal to humankind that there cannot be any doubt or dispute about what the "true faith" is?

    Doug Wilson Weighs in on the Eternal Fate of Faithful Catholics 

    http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2011/05/wilsonvide/

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