[Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Thu May 12 11:05:40 PDT 2011
Based on 3.00/gal oil companies make .08 cents per gal or 2.5%. gas tax is .59 cents or 20%. If oil companies cut their price by 50 % it would reduce3 the price by .04 cents per gal. If taxes were cut by 50% it would reduce the price by .30 cents.
On average over 20 years gas prices have rised by 3% per year. The salary of congressmen has increased by 12.54% per year.
Bases on 3.00 per gal the breakdown is:
gas retailers .01
oil companies .03
refiners .29
marketing/development .32
taxes .59
cost of crude 1.71
this is from jb williams.com/4-25-06
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 06:20:30 -0700
To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com, Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> Paul,
>
> Oil companies are going to charge what the market will bare, it has nothing to do with their costs.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On Wed, 5/11/11, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Cc: "'Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "'Donovan Arnold'" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 6:33 PM
>
>
>
> Wow, you've just Godwin'd this thread by comparing this issue to the
> Nazis. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law
>
> I'm not looking forward to having to wait an hour for these guys to move
> a semi-megaload down the highway, but let's try to keep some perspective
> here. We're talking traffic delays, possible road damage, possible
> electricity outages, and one giant megacorp putting a little more money
> in their giant coffers than they otherwise would. Besides, if we "win",
> they'll just find a more expensive way of moving these things and force
> the extra cost on to the consumers.
>
> I'm not saying you're not fighting the good fight, let's just keep it in
> perspective.
>
> Paul
>
> On 05/11/2011 11:02 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> > Excusing Krauss because the megaloads weren't anywhere near US95 or Moscow
> > yet is like justifying the Nazis as long as they knock on somebody else's
> > door.
> >
> > "Lame" doesn't begin to describe that logic.
> >
> > Seeya at HIRC tonight, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2011 10:47 am, Saundra Lund wrote:
> >> In part, Donovan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Remember Governor Cecil D. Andrus and how he blocked the Feds from
> >> entering the state with nuclear waste?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "I've got a state policeman and 15 of his friends, and all of them are
> >> prepared to do what is necessary if that truck makes it inside the
> >> borders of this state."
> >>
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Too bad we don't have politicians with courage and a working moral compass
> >> today that really look out for the people they represent! The rights of
> >> local citizens and property owners, and our pristine irreplaceable
> >> environment should not be ignored or put at risk of destruction in favor
> >> of the most privileged billionaires that offer nothing in return for their
> >> trespasses against us.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the fond but all too short stroll down memory lane, Donovan. I
> >> completely agree.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I know Idaho isn’t the only state in this position, but our state
> >> government is rotten to the core now as a direct result, IMHO, of far too
> >> many years of single party (GOP) control. Look where it’s gotten us,
> >> and it’s nowhere good. I’m sure there are still some departments that
> >> haven’t been destroyed by cronyism& corruption, but IDT surely isn’t
> >> one of them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> And, unfortunately, now isn’t the time to reasonably expect and decent
> >> GOP legislators to stand up to the state party. We need look no further
> >> than our own Rep. Tom Trail to see the retaliation when elected officials
> >> opt to look out for the people they represent rather than following the
> >> whacky& dysfunctional state GOP party line. Tom has served his
> >> constituents well over the years, but all the state party cares about now
> >> is forcing its members to be, essentially, jackbooted thugs willing to
> >> kowtow to big monied special interests (including those from
> >> out-of-state), and those unwilling to sell out are marginalized& stripped
> >> of state positions where they could make a difference. Disgusting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Saundra Lund
> >>
> >> Moscow, ID
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> >> nothing.
> >>
> >> ~ Edmund Burke
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life
> >> plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
> >> outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of
> >> the author.*****
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:59 AM
> >> To: Art Deco; Vision 2020; Craine Kit; Sue Hovey; Tom Hansen
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom Hansen,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the history lesson. But that doesn't change any of the facts on
> >> the ground. The meeting is still a farce because it won't be to discuss
> >> the concerns of the Idaho and Moscow residents unless they are technical
> >> questions about how the transportation will proceed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In all fairness, Council President Krauss was correct that the mega-loads
> >> were not Moscow's specific concern because at the time he said it the
> >> loads were not scheduled to come through Moscow.
> >>
> >> The only thing people of Moscow are being offered is lip service and
> >> information on how the mega-loads are going to come roaring through
> >> downtown in the dead of night. Where is the meeting on how and what is
> >> being done to prevent this from happening? Until that happens, people are
> >> just being played with by the politicians, lawyers, and the big oil
> >> companies that fund them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Remember Governor Cecil D. Andrus and how he blocked the Feds from
> >> entering the state with nuclear waste?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "I've got a state policeman and 15 of his friends, and all of them are
> >> prepared to do what is necessary if that truck makes it inside the
> >> borders of this state."
> >>
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Too bad we don't have politicians with courage and a working moral compass
> >> today that really look out for the people they represent! The rights of
> >> local citizens and property owners, and our pristine irreplaceable
> >> environment should not be ignored or put at risk of destruction in favor
> >> of the most privileged billionaires that offer nothing in return for their
> >> trespasses against us.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Donovan Arnold
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 5/11/11, Tom Hansen<thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Tom Hansen<thansen at moscow.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> >> To: "Donovan Arnold"<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Art Deco"
> >> <deco at moscow.com>, "Vision 2020"<vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Craine Kit"
> >> <kcraine at frontier.com>, "Sue Hovey"<suehovey at moscow.com>
> >> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 8:27 AM
> >>
> >> A little history lesson here, Mr. Arnold . . .
> >>
> >> On June 28, 2010 the Idaho Transportation Department began what was
> >> expected to be a series of community discussions in Moscow, Lewiston, and
> >> Kamiah. ITD, Conoco, and ExxonMobil were under the impression that these
> >> forums were to be conducted similar to a "high school career day" where
> >> representatives from Conoco and ExxonMobil would present a short speech
> >> from their respective displays. Shortly after Rep. Tom Trail arrived at
> >> the meeting, was informed of the meeting's format, and had a "discussion"
> >> with the ITD rep, the forum was re-formatted to include a Q&A portion.
> >>
> >> http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/ITDmtg_062810.htm
> >>
> >> ----------------------
> >>
> >> On August 16, 2010, during the public commentary portion of the Moscow
> >> City Council session, it was suggested that Moscow adopt a resolution
> >> against the transporting of oversized loads on Highway 12.
> >>
> >> To which Moscow City Council President Wayne Krauss responded, on
> >> September 6th, that the megaloads were none of Moscow's concern.
> >>
> >> http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/MoscowCC_PubCom_Hwy12Res.htm
> >>
> >> ----------------------
> >>
> >> On April 4, 2011 the Idaho Transportation Department presented a report to
> >> the Moscow City Council outlining US95 and I90 as alternate routes for a
> >> portion of the Highway 12 megaloads. In strong suggestive language (using
> >> terms like "right" and "ethics") Mayor Chaney asked that a public forum be
> >> conducted in Moscow so that Moscow's citizens may be heard on this issue>>
> >> http://www.moscowcares.com/040411_05_MegaloadsITD.htm
> >>
> >> ----------------------
> >>
> >> On April 18, 2011, during the Moscow City Council session, Mayor Chaney
> >> presented an update concerning the potential for megaloads being
> >> transported through Moscow on US95.
> >>
> >> http://www.moscowcares.com/041811_05_Megaloads.htm
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So . . . you see, Mr. Arnold. In my opinion, where the people of Moscow
> >> are concerned, Mayor Chaney has their back.
> >>
> >> Perhaps your anguish would be better aimed at Moscow City Council
> >> President Wayne Krauss who publicly expressed that these megaloads are not
> >> of Moscow's concern.
> >>
> >> Footnote, V-peeps: Although Rep. Tom Trail and Moscow City Council
> >> President Wayne Krauss are both members of the Republican Party, there are
> >> three words that clearly define the difference between them . . .
> >>
> >> CONCERN FOR CONSTITUENTS
> >>
> >> You decide who's got your back next time you step into the voting booth.
> >>
> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>
> >> Tom Hansen
> >> Moscow, Idaho
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 11, 2011 6:40 am, Donovan Arnold wrote:
> >>> Sue,
> >>> Â
> >>> I don't think that Mayor Cheney believes that the other issues are not
> >>> of
> >>> concern. I just don't think the Mayor can restrict what people can ask,
> >>> only what she and her invited speakers are willing to address. I think
> >>> having a public forum simply to take only technical questions is rather
> >>> pointless unless you are an engineering student. Most people won't have
> >>> technical questions about the transport if explained the process in a
> >>> well written article posted on the internet and published in the paper.
> >>> I
> >>> think the meeting is a farce if the real questions and concerns people
> >>> have are not even allowed to be asked.
> >>> Â
> >>> How about this question? What can the people do to stop these
> >>> mega-transports?
> >>> Â
> >>> Donovan Arnold
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Sue Hovey<suehovey at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Sue Hovey<suehovey at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> >>> To: "Art Deco"<deco at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deco@moscow.com> >,
> >>> "Vision 2020"<vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com> >,
> >>> "Donovan Arnold"<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
> >>>> , "Tom Hansen"
> >>> <thansen at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com> >,
> >>> "Craine Kit"<kcraine at frontier.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com> >
> >>> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 11:45 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Tom, Donovan& All,
> >>> Â
> >>> I don’t see that framing the discussion around local issues is a
> >>> signal
> >>> that the Mayor has declared the rest to be ok. It seems to me the
> >>> meeting was set to discuss impacts on our city. Those are the concerns
> >>> which will determine whether they get a permit to transport the rigs.Â
> >>> Obviously the other risks are not important to the Governor, ITD, and
> >>> other folks or this wouldn’t have already happened in Idaho. Â
> >>> Â As a
> >>> group of citizens concerned with this whole mess--how Exxon Mobile and
> >>> other oil extractors are willing to do any damage to any environment,
> >>> and
> >>> any people simply to turn a profit—you point out a legitimate
> >>> discussion
> >>> topic for Moscow citizens, and I bet the mayor is willing to have that
> >>> meeting, too. Why not ask her.Â
> >>> Â
> >>> Sue H.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Â
> >>>
> >>> From: Art Deco
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:39 PM
> >>> To: Vision 2020
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> >>> Â
> >>>
> >>> These megaloads are an extremely great deal for us!
> >>> Â
> >>> We can help kill lots of First Nations Canadians and others, cause the
> >>> greatest environmental disaster in the history of North America, and
> >>> help
> >>> our sneakiest global competitors, the Chinese, who own the majority
> >>> interests in the tar sands projects, to prosper even more at our
> >>> expense.
> >>> Â
> >>> Paraphrasing Langston Hughes:Â Everyone benefits from these megaloads.
> >>> Big oil gets to ride, we gets to watch them ride.
> >>> Â
> >>> w.
> >>> Â
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Donovan Arnold
> >>> To: Tom Hansen ; Craine Kit
> >>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:40 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> >>> Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My Questions;
> >>> Â
> >>> How did the Mayor acquire the ability to dictate what questions can an
> >>> cannot be asked? I understand informing people they will only answer
> >>> questions they feel are related to the transport of the megaloads, but
> >>> to
> >>> tell people what they can and cannot ask seems more like a scripted
> >>> event
> >>> than an actual Q&A session.
> >>> Â
> >>> Why should any people be required to allow these megaloads to be run
> >>> through their towns when they are not designed to handle this kind
> >>> transport? I don't think it would hurt Exxon Mobile financially to
> >>> find
> >>> another means of transporting their product without disrupting the
> >>> quality
> >>> of life, safety, and well being of others with lesser means than them.
> >>> Â
> >>> Donovan Arnold
> >>> Â
> >>> Â
> >>> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Craine Kit<kcraine at frontier.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Craine Kit<kcraine at frontier.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow
> >>> To: "Tom Hansen"<thansen at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com> >
> >>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020"<vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com> >
> >>> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 9:47 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Of course, one must ask about the impact of the convoy of 30 or so
> >>> vehicles--which is said to take an hour to pass any particular point.
> >>>
> >>> Kit Craine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Courtesy of today's (May 10, 2011) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
> >>>>
> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> OUR VIEW: Questions about semimegaloads in Moscow
> >>>> Lee Rozen, for the editorial board
> >>>> Posted on: Tuesday, May 10, 2011
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In the middle of about 60 nights this year, Imperial Oil/ExxonMobil
> >>>> wants
> >>>> to send oil equipment convoys that are a block or so long, two lanesÂ
> >>>> wide
> >>>> and 16 feet tall rumbling and blinking north through downtown Moscow.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Korean-built equipment would head from Lewiston via U.S. HighwayÂ
> >>>> 95,
> >>>> Interstate 90 and Montana to the Kearl Oil Sands in Alberta. To get
> >>>> each
> >>>> load from Lewiston to the Benewah County line should take one night
> >>>> between 10 p.m. and 5:30 a.m. Officials promise traffic delays of noÂ
> >>>> more
> >>>> than 15 minutes.
> >>>>
> >>>> But the travel plan is under review, and neither Idaho nor Montana has
> >>>> issued the necessary permits, or said when they will. The Moscow
> >>>> semi-megaload route has been chosen because of the delays in getting
> >>>> megaloads up the scenic U.S. Highway 12 corridor.
> >>>>
> >>>> ExxonMobil and Idaho Transportation Department officials haveÂ
> >>>> deigned to
> >>>> listen to Moscow's concerns about that at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the
> >>>> Hamilton
> >>>> Indoor Recreation Center, 1724 E. F St.
> >>>>
> >>>> At that meeting. ITD and oil company officials will talk first, and
> >>>> then
> >>>> take questions and comments from those who have signed in. Also, youÂ
> >>>> can
> >>>> email your thoughts to the ITD at comments at itd.idaho.gov
> >>>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=comments@itd.idaho.gov> ,
> >>>> and the City
> >>>> Council at skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us
> >>>> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us>
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>>> Mayor Nancy Chaney apparently has declared the morality of ExxonMobil
> >>>> profits, the Kearl Oil Sands project and fossil fuel consumption
> >>>> off-limits for discussion Wednesday night.
> >>>>
> >>>> ExxonMobil made profits of $10.7 billion in first quarter 2011. SomeÂ
> >>>> say
> >>>> the Kearl Oil Sands project is destroying the Canadian environment and
> >>>> killing residents of the area.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still, that leaves plenty of questions that need answers:
> >>>>
> >>>> Who makes sure delays are only 15 minutes? What happens if theyÂ
> >>>> aren't?
> >>>>
> >>>> Will all cross-streets in Moscow be closed?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it a delay if traffic keeps moving at 15 miles an hour behind the
> >>>> convoy? (The ITD says it isn't a delay; federal rules say it is.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Who pays for moving power lines and stoplights out of the way?
> >>>>
> >>>> Will this semi-megaload convoy be likely to wake me up when it goes
> >>>> by my
> >>>> house or apartment?
> >>>>
> >>>> Will you notify shippers - and the media so they can alert theÂ
> >>>> public - in
> >>>> advance of a convoy?
> >>>>
> >>>> Once permits are issued, can their terms be changed without notice?
> >>>>
> >>>> What if state police escorts get called to an emergency? Will that
> >>>> stall
> >>>> the convoy?
> >>>>
> >>>> What if Montana won't let the semi-megaloads in?
> >>>>
> >>>> Let's hope we hear some good answers.
> >>>>
> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Seeya there, Moscow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom Hansen
> >>>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>>
> >>>> "This is the 'Mouse that Roared,' 'David and Goliath' and 'Avatar' all
> >>>> rolled into one. We must remember that the thousands of citizensÂ
> >>>> involved
> >>>> in this effort to protect their personal and family safety, their
> >>>> businesses and their lifestyles are confronting some of the largest
> >>>> international corporations in the world."
> >>>>
> >>>> - Linwood Laughy
> >>>>
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> >> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
> >> changeand the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >>
> >> - Unknown
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
> > changeand the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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