[Vision2020] Could this now happen in Idaho? Luna's end game: Lunacy

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu May 12 09:17:41 PDT 2011


How do public colleges rip students off?

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> Thanks for bringing this up. There are an ever increasing number of diploma
> mill factories popping up all over the place that claim to be colleges with
> valuable degrees. They ruin students by taking all their federal aid dollars
> and saddling them with too much debt while giving them a degree in a field
> that won't hire them or pay much of anything.
>
> The worst ads are the ones for Medical Assisting and Dental Assisting.
> There are about ten medical assistants and 20 dental assistants for every
> job out there. Those positions are not the medical fields that are vacant.
> PT, OT, RT, PA, RN, BSN, LPN, and CNA, are the fields expanding at a rate
> faster then they are being filled.
>
> Keep in mind though, public colleges also rip student off.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On *Thu, 5/12/11, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Could this now happen in Idaho? Luna's end game:
> Lunacy
> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:05 AM
>
>   [image: The New York Times] <http://www.nytimes.com/>
>
>  ------------------------------
>  May 11, 2011
>  Education Is the Last Thing on Their Minds
> The for-profit education industry complained of excessive regulation last
> fall when the Obama administration issued new rules intended to curb abuses
> at profit-making colleges and trade schools. But lawsuits brought by
> whistle-blowers with firsthand knowledge of the industry make a strong case
> for why tough rules are needed.
> Earlier this month, the Justice Department took the unusual step of joining
> a lawsuit brought by former employees of the Education Management
> Corporation, one of the largest for-profit college companies in the country.
> The employees charged that the company knowingly defrauded the government by
> illegally paying recruiters based on the number of students they enroll.
> The court papers describe a “boiler room” atmosphere in which recruiters
> enrolled students who stood no chance of graduating and saddled them with
> debt they were unlikely to be able to pay off. They say the academic
> requirements laid out in Education Management’s advertisements were a sham
> and that the company accepted all students who completed applications and
> submitted 150-word essays.
> The former employees also charge that students who declined to enroll
> because their financial aid packages were too small were sometimes pressed
> to convert to part-time studies. They were then given refunds but were not
> told that the proceeds were from loans that they were obligated to repay.
> The plaintiffs claim large numbers of students who enrolled in Education
> Management schools dropped out, probably after incurring debt from loans.
> Despite these claims, and other revelations, the industry is continuing to
> press Congress to roll back government regulation. It is pushing
> particularly hard against a new rule that would cut off federal education
> aid to programs whose graduates end up saddled with debt that they have
> little hope of ever repaying.
> Instead of protecting the industry, lawmakers should be looking out for
> constituents who have been ripped off by unscrupulous schools and for the
> taxpayers who foot the bills for both student aid and loan defaults.
>
>  ____________________________________________
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