[Vision2020] Debt

[Art Deco]

Ted,

Good post.

Its not rocket science.  If you have debts you need to curt spending and raise revenue.  The more debt you have, the more of your resources goes to debt service (interest, etc).  Money spent for debt service is money lost; money that can't be spent on anything else.

Part of the problem is those who benefit by debt services, e.g. holders of U.S. Treasury notes, etc of various kinds  are among those who contribute to the politicians that, whatever lip service you give, keep us in debt by not voting for revenue increases.  

It a shell game.  Distract the voters by birther and other inflammatory non-economic issues so the public doesn't ask: why don't we raise revenue, especially from those who can afford it, and especially for those whose tax breaks like REITs do not benefit anyone except the trustees, and in fact cost the general public more in the long run by increasing infrastructure costs.

w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ted Moffett 
  To: Art Deco 
  Cc: Vision 2020 
  Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Debt


  The arguments and facts as presented in this article regarding the
  primary causes of the federal debt probably won't help Obama win
  re-election, as he is blamed for current economic woes that are
  largely not a result of his administration's policies.

  W. Bush era republican policies, such as maintaining Bush era tax cuts
  while waging expensive wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and failing to
  promote sensible regulations on Wall Street and banking transactions,
  which contributed to the great recession of 2008, are large
  contributors to the debt.

  But current discussions in the media with the influence of the "Tea
  Party" movement imply it's Obama tax and spend "socialism" that are
  the main threat to fiscal responsibility, not maintaining Bush era tax
  cuts while at war and allowing Wall Street and banks to engage in
  risky speculation, adopted with a trust that accumulation of capital
  in free markets would result in raising all boats, as they say.
  Democrat Clinton though was involved in financial deregulation
  (repealing Great Depression era banking regulatory law
  Glass-Steagall), as a new Democrat attempting to fuse capitalism
  friendly policies with democratic values: "The Long Demise of
  Glass-Steagall":
  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

  The TARP program, bank and auto industry bail outs, the economic
  stimulus, and health care reform, touted as examples of Obama's
  creeping socialism, are blamed for the deficit when these temporary
  economic stabilizing efforts to ward off a full scale depression are
  greatly being repaid to the federal government, and are not a major
  contributor to the federal debt, which might now be even more of a
  problem if the economy had sunk into a full fledged depression.
  Obama's health care reform is predicted in the following critical
  analysis to only slightly increase the cost of health care over a ten
  year period, while covering far more people:  "Obama said health care
  reform will reduce the cost of health care":
  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/dec/18/barack-obama/obama-said-health-care-reform-will-reduce-cost-hea/

  The economic ideology of the Milton Friedman Chicago school of
  economics, which former Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan followed,
  appeared to guide W. Bush administration free market fundamentalism,
  resulting in the economic crash of 2008, about which Greenspan said
  involved a "flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical
  functioning structure that defines how the world works." ("Praying for
  a revolution in economics: Greenspan's crisis of faith exposes the
  scientific veneer of economics for what it is, revealing what amounts
  to a religion" http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/jul/11/economics-greenspan-neoclassical
  ; "Greenspan Concedes Error on Regulation":
  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=1
  ).

  Andrew Leonard writing for Salon.com puts it bluntly:

  The great crash of the "Chicago school" of economics

  http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2009/04/28/downfall_of_the_chicago_school

  "I'm not going to cut it too fine: I think you can very well blame the
  Chicago school for the fiasco of growing income inequality in the U.S.
   Nice triumph for deregulated capitalism, boys! Ronald Reagan listened
  closely to Milton Friedman and the Chicago school godfather's
  disciples have been rife in the Republican administrations that have
  dominated the White House ever since the Californian swept into
  Washington and started blaming government for our problems. Well guess
  what? It didn't work so well. The rich got richer and then screwed the
  pooch."
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  Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett

  On 5/1/11, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
  >
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  >
  >
  > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  >
  > Running in the red: How the U.S., on the road to surplus, detoured to
  > massive debt
  > By Lori Montgomery, Saturday, April 30, 8:02 PM
  > The nation's unnerving descent into debt began a decade ago with a choice,
  > not a crisis.
  >
  > In January 2001, with the budget balanced and clear sailing ahead, the
  > Congressional Budget Office forecast ever-larger annual surpluses
  > indefinitely. The outlook was so rosy, the CBO said, that Washington would
  > have enough money by the end of the decade to pay off everything it owed.
  >
  > Voices of caution were swept aside in the rush to take advantage of the
  > apparent bounty. Political leaders chose to cut taxes, jack up spending and,
  > for the first time in U.S. history, wage two wars solely with borrowed
  > funds. "In the end, the floodgates opened," said former senator Pete
  > Domenici (R-N.M.), who chaired the Senate Budget Committee when the first
  > tax-cut bill hit Capitol Hill in early 2001.
  >
  > Now, instead of tending a nest egg of more than $2 trillion, the federal
  > government expects to owe more than $10 trillion to outside investors by the
  > end of this year. The national debt is larger, as a percentage of the
  > economy, than at any time in U.S. history except for the period shortly
  > after World War II.
  >
  > Polls show that a large majority of Americans blame wasteful or unnecessary
  > federal programs for the nation's budget problems. But routine increases in
  > defense and domestic spending account for only about 15 percent of the
  > financial deterioration, according to a new analysis of CBO data.
  >
  > The biggest culprit, by far, has been an erosion of tax revenue triggered
  > largely by two recessions and multiple rounds of tax cuts. Together, the
  > economy and the tax bills enacted under former president George W. Bush, and
  > to a lesser extent by President Obama, wiped out $6.3 trillion in
  > anticipated revenue. That's nearly half of the $12.7 trillion swing from
  > projected surpluses to real debt. Federal tax collections now stand at their
  > lowest level as a percentage of the economy in 60 years.
  >
  > Big-ticket spending initiated by the Bush administration accounts for 12
  > percent of the shift. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have added $1.3 trillion
  > in new borrowing. A new prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients
  > contributed another $272 billion. The Troubled Assets Relief Program bank
  > bailout, which infuriated voters and led to the defeat of several
  > legislators in 2010, added just $16 billion - and TARP may eventually cost
  > nothing as financial institutions repay the Treasury.
  >
  > Obama's 2009 economic stimulus, a favorite target of Republicans who blame
  > Democrats for the mounting debt, has added $719 billion - 6 percent of the
  > total shift, according to the new analysis of CBO data by the nonprofit Pew
  > Fiscal Analysis Initiative. All told, Obama-era choices account for about
  > $1.7 trillion in new debt, according to a separate Washington Post analysis
  > of CBO data over the past decade. Bush-era policies, meanwhile, account for
  > more than $7 trillion and are a major contributor to the trillion-dollar
  > annual budget deficits that are dominating the political debate.
  >
  > As Congress prepares this week to launch a high-stakes battle over whether
  > to raise the legal limit on borrowing, the analyses offer a clearer view of
  > the drivers of the debt - and of the difficulty of re-balancing the budget
  > without new tax revenue.
  >
  > Most Republicans reject raising taxes as part of the solution; House Speaker
  > John A. Boehner (Ohio) has called it a "non-starter." But Democrats won't go
  > for a proposal based solely on spending cuts. The"Gang of Six," a bipartisan
  > Senate group dedicated to debt reduction, is expected to unveil a strategy
  > as soon as this week that couples sharp spending cuts with a rewrite of the
  > tax code that would raise additional revenue.
  >
  > (The debt ceiling, set at $14.3 trillion, covers all federal debt, including
  > money the Treasury owes other federal entities, such as the Social Security
  > trust fund. The CBO data focus on the portion of the debt borrowed from
  > outside investors. The debt is the accumulation of annual deficits; if
  > annual budgets are in surplus, the nation can pay down the debt.)
  >
  > The annual surpluses that set the nation on this course emerged in the final
  > years of the Clinton administration. In the typical American household, a
  > surplus comes as welcome news. But the White House is not a typical
  > household. When Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin saw the budget shift into
  > the black in 1998, he immediately warned President Bill Clinton that,
  > politically, it was a mixed blessing.
  >
  > Rubin wanted to use the surplus to start repaying the debt, which was then
  > just more than $3 trillion. The White House billed it as "saving Social
  > Security first," viewing the surplus as an opportunity to shore up the
  > nation's finances before huge numbers of the baby boom generation began
  > claiming federal retirement benefits. "The problem was a whole other part of
  > the political spectrum wanted to use the surplus for tax cuts," Rubin said
  > in an interview. "They said they wanted to give the people back their money.
  > Of course, it was also the people's debt."
  >
  > What to do with the surplus became a central issue of the 2000 presidential
  > campaign, with Vice President Al Gore arguing that much of it should be put
  > in a "lockbox" to protect Social Security and Medicare. Bush pushed for a
  > broad tax cut, arguing that taxpayers at all income levels were owed a
  > refund. "Some say that the growing federal surplus means Washington has more
  > money to spend, but they've got it backwards," Bush said as he accepted the
  > GOP nomination in August 2000. "The surplus is not the government's money.
  > The surplus is the people's money."
  >
  > As soon as he took office, Bush pushed Congress to make good on his tax
  > pledge. Less than a week after his inauguration, he got a boost from Federal
  > Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who testified before the Senate Budget
  > Committee that "tax reduction appears required" to prevent the federal
  > government from accumulating too much cash. Greenspan feared that large
  > surpluses would turn the government into the nation's largest investor,
  > creating distortions in the markets.
  >
  > A chorus of skeptics warned against spending the surplus. Some stressed the
  > inherent uncertainty of the CBO projections. Others said a big tax cut would
  > unleash pent-up desire in both parties to pursue expensive priorities
  > without the pay-as-you-go restraints that had helped produce the surplus.
  >
  > Congress approved a $1.35 trillion tax cut in record time. A second package,
  > worth $350 billion, followed in 2003. Together, they constituted one of the
  > largest tax cuts since World War II, according to the conservative Tax
  > Foundation.
  >
  > Bush's first Treasury secretary, Paul O'Neill, resigned after the White
  > House decided to pursue the 2003 measure. "I believed we needed the money to
  > facilitate fundamental tax reform and begin working on unfunded liabilities
  > for Social Security and Medicare," O'Neill said in an interview. But the
  > White House, he said, was focused on improving economic growth for the
  > fourth quarter of 2004. "They wanted to make sure economic conditions were
  > great going into the president's reelection."
  >
  > Proponents of tax cuts argue that the legislation merely returned tax
  > collections to their appropriate levels. They note that the CBO's 2001
  > forecast assumed that tax collections would stay above 20 percent of the
  > nation's gross domestic product (defined as the total of all economic
  > output) - well above the historic average of 18 percent of GDP.
  >
  > "It's not obvious that America was ready to have taxes at a level this high
  > persistently," said Donald Marron, a former CBO director who now heads the
  > nonprofit Tax Policy Center. "Some degree of tax cutting was inevitable."
  >
  > But some key advocates of the tax cuts now say such a large reduction was
  > probably ill-advised.
  >
  > "Nobody would have thought that all these things would have happened after
  > you cut taxes," Domenici said. "That you'd have two wars and not pay for
  > them. That you'd have another recession. A huge extravaganza of
  > expenditures" for the military and homeland security after the Sept. 11,
  > 2001, attacks. "You would pause before you did it, if you knew."
  >
  > Bill Thomas, the former House Ways and Means Committee chairman who helped
  > shepherd the tax cuts through Congress, defended the 2003 package as "fuel
  > for the economy." But he said in an interview that the 2001 measure was
  > larded with "stuff that I was not all that wild about," including bipartisan
  > priorities such as a big increase in the child tax credit and a break for
  > married couples - provisions Thomas believes did little to promote economic
  > growth and amounted to "throwing money out the window."
  >
  > "I couldn't do anything about it," said Thomas, a California Republican who
  > retired in 2006. "You're the candy man when you advocate those kinds of tax
  > cuts."
  >
  > In the end, Bush cut taxes and spent more money. Good times masked the
  > impact, as surging tax revenues reduced the size of year-to-year deficits
  > during the first three years of his second term. But after the economy
  > collapsed during Bush's final year in office, deficits - and therefore the
  > debt - began to explode as Obama sought to revive economic activity with
  > more tax cuts and federal spending.
  >
  > Today, the CBO forecasts are unrelievedly gloomy, showing huge deficits
  > essentially forever. As policymakers grapple with the legacy of the past
  > decade, a demographic wave of senior citizens is crashing at their doorstep,
  > driving up the cost of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.
  >
  > William Hoagland, who was for years a top budget aide to Domenici and other
  > GOP Senate leaders, said it is simplistic to think today's fiscal problems
  > began just 10 years ago. In 1976, as a young CBO analyst, Hoagland produced
  > a long-term simulation that showed entitlement costs gradually overwhelming
  > the rest of the federal budget.
  >
  > "This situation really goes back to long before [the Bush administration],
  > which is to say to old dead men that have long left the Congress," he said.
  >
  > Still, Hoagland said, the abandonment of fiscal discipline in the wake of
  > the surpluses clearly didn't help. "Nobody pushed for paying for this
  > stuff," he said. Not even after "it became very clear in the middle of 2003
  > that the line had turned on us. And the surpluses as far as the eye could
  > see were no longer there."
  >
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