[Vision2020] No government support for NPR et al?

[lfalen]

Shame on you. Your argument is illogical. You attribute things to me that arn't factual. Why do you seem so angry? I do not wish to see NPR fail. I hope that they continue to survive. Only a fraction of their funding comes from the government. Why should they recieve federal funding and Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. do not? None of them should receive federal funding. That is the only way to insure a free press.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:09:00 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] No government support for NPR et al?

> The point is NOT supported by you or anyone else. You radical right wing
> folks think your views should be adopted for no other reason than that you
> believe them; because you believe it is true I should also. But that is not
> the case. We have a history of objective standards for judging the merits of
> reasons and argument. It is called the discipline of logic. If you had more
> respect for the history of Western civilization and public institutions you
> would realize that. The fact that you ignore those is no ones fault but your
> own. Shame on you. Worse, you want to promote further ignorance by
> disallowing legitimate news sources (NPR) and gutting education. That way
> even fewer people will be able to see through your irrational rhetoric.
> 
> But here in a nut shell is the issue for all fair minded people to see. You
> have nothing but fallacious arguments and unsupported accusations to support
> your claims. Nothing at all. The nameless "Glenn" is in the exact same boat.
> 
> The real issue is, like with respect to military funding, whether the source
> funded provides a public good. Whether it is "slightly right" or "slightly
> left" is completely irrelevant. Shame on you!
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:53 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> 
> > The point is that is they should not be funded period. It makes no
> > difference whether they are right, left or down the center.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:42:44 -0700
> > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] No government support for NPR et al?
> >
> > > No Roger, Glenn did not answer the question. Glenn made several
> > fallacious
> > > points, some of which were pointed out and all of which are ignored
> > below.
> > > And do you also support slavery, another view that "Glenn" supports?
> > >
> > > Why bother pretending to engage in discussions about these issues if you
> > > IGNORE criticisms of points made? Here is another refutation of one of
> > your
> > > points. Please respond.
> > >
> > > You write that NPR is "[s]lightly left of center" [even though you admit
> > to
> > > listening to it only "occasionally" and do not provide ONE example
> > > supporting this claim]. If this is a reason to not fund NPR via taxpayer
> > > money, then the following would also be a good argument: The military is
> > > slightly right of center, so it should not receive any public funding.
> > >
> > > So which is it: should we end public support for the military or should
> > we
> > > recognize that your argument is a bad one?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:54 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have not been on the computer all week, but I think that Glenn
> > answered
> > > > your question.
> > > > In response ro Nick- I do not know it Nader is right or not.I have only
> > > > listened to NPR occasionally. What I have caught is Fresh Air or All
> > Things
> > > > Considered. They both at the times I heard them seemed to be lightly
> > left of
> > > > center. Nader only mentioned Charlie Rose. I am sure there a lot of
> > other
> > > > hosts besides Rose. I have never heard him. In any event this is all
> > > > irrelevant. It would not make any difference if they were equally
> > balanced
> > > > or were 100% to the right. They should not be geting any funding from
> > the
> > > > taxpayers. In case you don't realize it we are in a money crunch. Let
> > spend
> > > > only on those thing that are essential and can not be done adequately
> > by the
> > > > private sector. I want to see our veterans taken care of for just one
> > of
> > > > many that we should be spending on. Your ideal Nation of Sweden is
> > geting
> > > > the message and cutting back on services before they wind up like
> > Greece and
> > > > Ireland. I hope they succeed, that is the ancestral home of the
> > Falen's.
> > > > They come from Ostergotlund.
> > > > You may know  where that is.
> > > > Roger
> > > > -----Original message-----
> > > > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > > > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:27:38 -0700
> > > > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] No government support for NPR et al?
> > > >
> > > > > State one left wing point of view that NPR broadcasts, Roger. Just
> > one.
> > > > >
> > > > > They broadcast news. You are so used to listening to the lies on Fox
> > that
> > > > > you confuse them for "points of view."
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:17 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If  NPR wants to broadcast left wing points of view and supporters
> > are
> > > > > > willing to fund it, more power to them.
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > > -----Original message-----
> > > > > > From: "Robert Dickow" dickow at turbonet.com
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:18:10 -0700
> > > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Vision2020] No government support for NPR et al?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hear that the conservative congressmen have proposed
> > withdrawing
> > > > > > > government funding for NPR. Apparently a newscaster or fund drive
> > > > person
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > somebody made some disparaging remarks about the Tea Party. Fie!
> > Fie!
> > > > > > Now,
> > > > > > > denying public broadcasting all those scarce taxpayer dollars
> > sounds
> > > > like
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > reasonable and just response to such offenses if you're a
> > > > conservative
> > > > > > > Republican sympathetic with the Tea Party movement, right? Uh
> > > > huh.sure.
> > > > > > How
> > > > > > > dumb can anybody be?! NPR won't suddenly go belly up and go off
> > the
> > > > air,
> > > > > > > slinking off into the shadows with its tail between its legs.
> > Private
> > > > > > > donors-- those dwindling middle class stalwarts-- will valiantly
> > step
> > > > up
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the plate in ever greater numbers. So what will actually happen,
> > > > then, is
> > > > > > > that NPR will be unfettered and free to unleash all their rabid
> > > > commie
> > > > > > pinko
> > > > > > > liberal gun-hating womens libber staffers to say all the rabid
> > commie
> > > > > > pinko
> > > > > > > tea-barfing they've always wanted to say but didn't because they
> > felt
> > > > > > > compelled to be balanced in their commie pinko tree-hugging
> > opinions
> > > > and
> > > > > > > bleeding-heart liberal union thug biased news reporting. Clearly,
> > > > this
> > > > > > > government measure will not serve the common good. And I may be
> > > > forced to
> > > > > > > mix even more metaphors in the future.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Dickow, troublemaker
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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