[Vision2020] Note to Bob Kustra

Thu Mar 3 09:58:57 PST 2011

If it weren't for Kustra's comments last summer about the U of Idaho, I wouldn't even have posted about this.  But this comment from BSU Athletic Director Gene Bleymaier in today's Statesman must be sheer heresy to Bronco Bob's ears......"Obviously college students drink, and college students drink all over 
America,” he said. “I don’t think our college students are any different
 than that.”  Say it ain't so.......

Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:58:49 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Note to Bob Kustra
From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: areaman at moscow.com
CC: idahovandal1 at live.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

Right.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:

Joe, 
I believe what Carl was paraphrasing referred to the blorange-clad folks of donkey state

DC

On Mar 2, 2011, at 16:57, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

I can't think of any more false claim about the UI students than "With
 success comes arrogance, and with arrogance comes some rudeness. That 
is exactly what has happened here in this little school in the middle of
 the Idaho potato fields." That has not happened at UI!

I teach at WSU but we have joint grad program with UI and I get some students from Idaho who come to WSU to take classes (about 2 per semester). Plus, I teach an occasional class at UI, filling in for a friend, and I've given lectures in Moscow. 

I would say that UI students are less arrogant than WSU students by a long shot. I love my WSU students, and many of them are exceptional. Nonetheless, arguably most people in Pullman would rather be in Seattle (over 2/3 of the students are from the west side, I think) but no one in Moscow would rather be in Boise. In any event, the UI students are well-mannered, IMO.

I taught at BSU for 2 years, and I would say that my Idaho students were much less arrogant and much better in in terms of their manners than any other students that I've ever had -- which includes students from Washington, Ohio, and Arizona. 

In general, "manners" are not important to the American youth but in 
Idaho, they are more important than they are elsewhere. Go, Idaho!

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com> wrote:

					According to a Sports Illustrated poll, Boise State ranked first in the WAC and 17th in the country in the "Which school has the rudest fans" poll.
"With
 success comes arrogance, and with arrogance comes some rudeness. That 
is exactly what has happened here in this little school in the middle of
 the Idaho potato fields.
Even with a head football coach that is 
one of the most classiest guys in the game today, the fans of Boise 
State have made great strides in the race to become college football's 
most arrogant and cocky."       Oh, and by the way, Mr. Kustra, from the Boise State, er, Idaho Statesman.......
By Brian Murphy

bmurphy at idahostatesman.com

A comprehensive Sports Illustrated/CBS News special investigation 
found that 16 Boise State players had criminal charges, ranking the 
Broncos tied for No. 4 among teams in Sports Illustrated's 2010 
preseason Top 25.

The six-month investigation into 2,837 players found that 7 percent 
had criminal records and 8.1 percent of scholarship players had been in 
trouble. Only two of the Top 25 schools did background checks and none 
checked juvenile records.

The investigation looked into players' complete criminal records, not just charges while in college.

Pittsburgh (22 players charged) ranked No. 1 with Iowa and Arkansas 
(18 players charged each) tying for No. 2. Boise State was tied with 
Penn State. Virginia Tech (13) was No. 6, the only other school with 
more than 10 players charged.

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