[Vision2020] Two Seperate Issues

[Ted Moffett]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Shirley Ringo <ringoshirl at moscow.com>wrote:

I would add that I deplore aiding and abetting the project in Canada.  My
readings on the topic convince me that the project constitutes declaring war
on the planet.  I think it is irresponsible to allow such projects to go
forward without objection.
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The moral implications of all the impacts of the tar sands development
transcend the legal and government structures in place that are available to
address these implications, structures that are ill equipped to
address impacts on the planetary commons on a centuries long time frame.
Even without legal standing to block or slow the tar sands development, such
as legal standing to block the mega-loads passage through Moscow, moral
objections can and should nonetheless be raised, as you just did.

Thanks.
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Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett

 As a policy maker, I have expressed the following concern on more than one
> occasion:
>
> "In the 2000 Legislative session, we opened experimental routes in
> southeast Idaho for trucks weighing 135,000 pounds.  There was supposed to
> be a report concerning their effect on pavement and bridges.  That report
> never came (was inconclusive), yet ITD is comfortable with approving at
> least 200 shipments of mega loads."
>
> The statement above was part of a letter I submitted to the opinion page of
> the Daily News.  I am very concerned about the way these loads will affect
> our infrastructure.
>
> I would add that I deplore aiding and abetting the project in Canada.  My
> readings on the topic convince me that the project constitutes declaring war
> on the planet.  I think it is irresponsible to allow such projects to go
> forward without objection.
>
> Shirley
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Henry D. "Hank" Johnston <hearseboy85 at gmail.com>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
>  *Sent:* Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:41 AM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Two Seperate Issues
>
>   I see that we're not going to make any progress here on this Megaload
> issue because some people can't get over the end result.
>
> I'm as concerned about the enviromental damage in Canada as many of you on
> this forum.  But those concerns cannot weigh into whether or not the permits
> are issued to move said loads through Moscow if the laws and rules exist for
> other loads of the same demensions (though not maybe owned by oil
> companies) to be permitted.
>
> The basis of my opinion is about the megaloads themselves - height, weight,
> noise, damage to roadways, etc... all of which were deemed null issues by
> our police and fire chiefs and the road concern was deemed null by our city
> streets supervisor.  Such loads are also permittable under current Idaho
> law/admin rules.
>
> Can anyone on this forum say that you would still be opposed to loads of
> this size if they were large solar panels or wind turbine equipment?  If
> you're opposed to the loads based on the size/noise/etc.. regardless
> of use then I respect and can see your point of view even though its
> different than mine.
>
> But I won't engage in a discussion about whether or not we should be some
> sort of heros to the people of Canada by stopping these loads for their well
> being.  It is my position that its not Moscow's position to do so.
>
> If that ends the discussion then so be it but all my opinions are now on
> the table.
>
> ***
>
> @ Joe - You're really hung up on this hippie thing and all I can say is get
> over it.  I've gotten over the fact you called me an offensive idiot.
>
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