[Vision2020] Website Error: Re: medical marijuana
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Fri Jun 3 09:14:15 PDT 2011
American legislature was conned into unwavering faith in the propaganda
reflected in . . .
"Reefer Madness"
http://www.MoscowCares.com/Videos/ReeferMadness.htm
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
On Fri, June 3, 2011 9:03 am, Art Deco wrote:
> The whole opposition to medical marijuana is an example of extreme
> ignorance, irrationality, and blind prejudice.
>
> Opium (heroin) and cocaine derivatives are commonly used in pain killers.
> Most modern prescription pain killers are synthetic narcotics -- that's
> why so many people become addicted to them.
>
> But where is the squawk about this?
>
> Marijuana has much fewer side effects than most prescription pain killers
> that actually work, for many kinds of common pain it is extremely
> effective, and while it may be habit forming, it is not addictive.
>
> This is another of many chapters in "Man: The Irrational Animal."
>
> This also reminds me of Ambrose Bierce's famous definition:
>
> "Puritanism - the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
>
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID 83843
>
> waf at moscow.com
> 208 882-7975
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ted Moffett
> To: Kenneth Marcy
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; arlene falcon ; nathan alford ; susan engle
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:39 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Website Error: Re: medical marijuana
>
>
> The website previously given for info on Robert S de Ropp's "Drugs and
> the Mind" appears to have an error. This URL should work:
>
> http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a
>
> On 6/2/11, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at frontier.com
> > Wed Jun 1 18:03:11 PDT 2011 wrote:
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2011-June/076771.html
> >
> > "So, medical benefits have been known or suspected for twenty years or
> > more."
> > -------
> > The "medical" benefits of cannabis have at least been "suspected" for
> > over a 1000 years.
> >
> > Decades ago I read the book "Drugs and the Mind" by Robert S. De Ropp,
> > where I learned of Weir Mitchell's 1800s US explorations of hashish
> > use. If I recall the text correctly, Mitchell was able to purchase
> > hashish in the 1800s from the local apothecary, or whatever they
> > called it, legally. I'll not describe the experiences induced, but
> > Ropp's "Drugs and the Mind" gives a detailed account, worth reading.
> > Mitchell later went on to become a physician.
> >
> > As can be read from this website regarding migraine treatment with
> > cannabis, with extensive references,
> > http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/medical/omr_russo.htm
> > Mitchell is listed as a source mentioning hashish or cannabis as a
> > headache or migraine remedy from the 1800s.
> >
> > Quote mentioning Mitchell from 1874:
> >
> > "Throughout the latter half of the nineteenth century, many prominent
> > physicians in Europe and North America advocated the use of extracts
> > of Cannabis indica for the symptomatic and preventive treatment of
> > headache.
> >
> > Proponents included Weir Mitchell in 1874, E.J. Waring in 1874, Hobart
> > Hare in 1887, Sir William Gowers in 1888, J.R. Reynolds in 1890, J.B.
> > Mattison in 1891, et al., (Walton, 1938; Mikuriya, 1969). Cannabis was
> > included in the mainstream pharmacopeias in Britain and America for
> > this indication. As late as 1915, Sir William Osler, the acknowledged
> > father of modern medicine, stated of migraine treatment (Osler, 1915),
> > "Cannabis indica is probably the most satisfactory remedy. Seguin
> > recommends a prolonged course." This statement supports its use for
> > both acute and prophylactic treatment of migraine. "
> >
> > Info on Robert S. De Ropp's book "Drugs and the Mind:"
> >
> > http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a\
> >
> > Goolker, P. (1960). Drugs and the Mind: By Robert S. de Ropp. Foreword
> > by Nathan S. Kline. New York: Grove Press, Inc., 1960. Originally
> > published by St. Martin's Press, 1957. 310 pp.. Psychoanal Q.,
> > 29:407-409.
> > -------------
> > Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at frontier.com
> > Wed Jun 1 18:03:11 PDT 2011 wrote:
> >
> > "As a practical matter, until the federal marijuana laws are changed
> to
> > either
> > legalize it altogether, or to legalize medical marijuana, or to allow
> > states
> > to set their own policies subject to federal rules, I doubt much can
> be
> > done
> > that is legally safe, administratively efficient, and medically
> > effective. If the
> > 2012 federal elections bring to office a Congress more conducive to
> change,
> > there may be some better hope for legislative as well as medical
> relief."
> > -------------
> > As long as Sarah Palin, for example (she's blathering on as I write,
> > on CNN), is regarded as a credible candidate for the presidency by a
> > large segment of the US voting public, given what this implies
> > regarding the mindset of the electorate, the odds of a "Congress more
> > conducive to change" on the federal level regarding liberalizing
> > federal cannabis laws are rather low.
> >
> > There is more concern among Palin's followers with assuring legal
> > unregulated access to firearms, than legal medical or other reasons
> > for access to cannabis. Comparing the negative impacts of legal
> > access to firearms, to the negative impacts from illegal cannabis,
> > reveals a migraine inducing inconsistency in the rational application
> > of public pressure and lobbying efforts before the US Congress to
> > prevent abuses of government control over individual liberty, assuming
> > the harm of the behavior that is a protected liberty, and the harm
> > induced by rendering a behavor illegal, are measures of how much
> > government control is indicated over the behavior.
> >
> > I am of course not saying that access to firearms should be
> > criminalized like cannabis is, but that to insist on protecting the
> > right to carry arms while not insisting on allowing adults to make
> > their own legal choices regarding cannabis use, as astonishing numbers
> > of people are jailed and persecuted for growing, selling or using
> > cannabis, seems like a glaring inconsistency.
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
> >
> > On 6/1/11, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday 01 June 2011 16:03:18 Bill London wrote:
> >
> >>> The essay below was originally posted by Susan Engle of the Lewiston
> >>> Tribune on her blog at the Tribune website, and then reprinted in
> the
> >>> Tribune itself on page 8C today (June 1) on the best of the blogs
> page.
> >>> This is the most powerful statement I have yet read on this issues
> of
> >>> pain, suffering, and relief (and medical marijuana).....thanks
> >>> Susan....BL
> >> <[snip]>
> >>
> >> The requisite knowledge to stop or alleviate lots of unnecessary pain
> and
> >> suffering has been available for a long time. Being the sometime
> science
> >> student that I am, I just happen to have a copy of the twelfth
> edition of
> >> Hawley's Condensed Chemical Dictionary, edited by Richard J. Lewis,
> Sr.
> >> The
> >> Library of Congress number for this edition has 1992 for a date, so
> this
> >> book
> >> is nearly two decades old. Here are three related entries:
> >>
> >> hemp. Soft white fibers 3 - 6 feet long. It is coarser than flax
> but
> >> stronger,
> >> more glossy, and more durable than cotton. Obtained from the stems of
> >> Cannabis
> >> sativa. Sources: Central Asia, Italy, USSR, India, U.S. Hazard:
> >> Combustible.
> >> May ignite spontaneously when wet. Use: blended with cotton or flax
> in
> >> toweling
> >> and heavy fabrics, twine, cordage, packing. See also cannabis.
> >>
> >> tetrahydrocannibol. C(21)H(30)O(2). The active principle of
> marijuana,
> >> a
> >> hallucinatory drug. It has been synthesized and is available in lab
> >> quantities
> >> subject to legal restrictions. Animal tests have indicated that it
> can
> >> retard
> >> cancer growth and may also promote acceptance of organ transplants in
> the
> >> human body.
> >>
> >> cannabis. (marijuana). CAS: 8063-14-7. Its principle,
> >> tetrahydrocannabinol,
> >> can be made synthetically. Derivation: Dried flowering cups of
> pistillate
> >> plants of Cannabis sativa. Habitat: Iran, India; cultivated in Mexico
> and
> >> Europe. Hazard: A mild hallucinogen. Sale is illegal in U.S. Use:
> >> Medicine,
> >> opthalmology (treatment of glaucoma).
> >>
> >> (Yes, I noticed the spelling. The first is their typo, the second is
> >> correct.)
> >>
> >> So, medical benefits have been known or suspected for twenty years or
> >> more.
> >> What has been done in the interim? Well, here's a six-year-old Web
> page
> >> about
> >> marijuana hypocrisy:
> http://cannabisnews.com/news/20/thread20844.shtml
> >>
> >> For more up-to-date information, here is the Wikipedia page for the
> >> active
> >> agent, tetrahydrocannabinol:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol
> >>
> >> As a practical matter, until the federal marijuana laws are changed
> to
> >> either
> >> legalize it altogether, or to legalize medical marijuana, or to allow
> >> states
> >> to set their own policies subject to federal rules, I doubt much can
> be
> >> done
> >> that is legally safe, administratively efficient, and medically
> >> effective.
> >> If the
> >> 2012 federal elections bring to office a Congress more conducive to
> >> change,
> >> there may be some better hope for legislative as well as medical
> relief.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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