[Vision2020] Website Error: Re: medical marijuana

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri Jun 3 09:14:15 PDT 2011


American legislature was conned into unwavering faith in the propaganda
reflected in . . .

"Reefer Madness"
http://www.MoscowCares.com/Videos/ReeferMadness.htm

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho




On Fri, June 3, 2011 9:03 am, Art Deco wrote:
> The whole opposition to medical marijuana is an example of extreme
> ignorance, irrationality, and blind prejudice.
>
> Opium (heroin) and cocaine derivatives are commonly used in pain killers.
> Most modern prescription pain killers are synthetic narcotics -- that's
> why so many people become addicted to them.
>
> But where is the squawk about this?
>
> Marijuana has much fewer side effects than most prescription pain killers
> that actually work, for many kinds of common pain it is extremely
> effective, and while it may be habit forming, it is not addictive.
>
> This is another of many chapters in "Man: The Irrational Animal."
>
> This also reminds me of Ambrose Bierce's famous definition:
>
> "Puritanism - the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
>
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID  83843
>
> waf at moscow.com
> 208 882-7975
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ted Moffett
>   To: Kenneth Marcy
>   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; arlene falcon ; nathan alford ; susan engle
>   Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:39 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] Website Error: Re: medical marijuana
>
>
>   The website previously given for info on Robert S de Ropp's "Drugs and
>   the Mind" appears to have an error.  This URL should work:
>
>   http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a
>
>   On 6/2/11, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
>   > Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at frontier.com
>   > Wed Jun 1 18:03:11 PDT 2011 wrote:
>   > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2011-June/076771.html
>   >
>   > "So, medical benefits have been known or suspected for twenty years or
>   > more."
>   > -------
>   > The "medical" benefits of cannabis have at least been "suspected" for
>   > over a 1000 years.
>   >
>   > Decades ago I read the book "Drugs and the Mind" by Robert S. De Ropp,
>   > where I learned of Weir Mitchell's 1800s US explorations of hashish
>   > use.  If I recall the text correctly, Mitchell was able to purchase
>   > hashish in the 1800s from the local apothecary, or whatever they
>   > called it, legally.  I'll not describe the experiences induced, but
>   > Ropp's "Drugs and the Mind" gives a detailed account, worth reading.
>   > Mitchell later went on to become a physician.
>   >
>   > As can be read from this website regarding migraine treatment with
>   > cannabis, with extensive references,
>   > http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/medical/omr_russo.htm
>   > Mitchell is listed as a source mentioning hashish or cannabis as a
>   > headache or migraine remedy from the 1800s.
>   >
>   > Quote mentioning Mitchell from 1874:
>   >
>   > "Throughout the latter half of the nineteenth century, many prominent
>   > physicians in Europe and North America advocated the use of extracts
>   > of Cannabis indica for the symptomatic and preventive treatment of
>   > headache.
>   >
>   > Proponents included Weir Mitchell in 1874, E.J. Waring in 1874, Hobart
>   > Hare in 1887, Sir William Gowers in 1888, J.R. Reynolds in 1890, J.B.
>   > Mattison in 1891, et al., (Walton, 1938; Mikuriya, 1969). Cannabis was
>   > included in the mainstream pharmacopeias in Britain and America for
>   > this indication. As late as 1915, Sir William Osler, the acknowledged
>   > father of modern medicine, stated of migraine treatment (Osler, 1915),
>   > "Cannabis indica is probably the most satisfactory remedy. Seguin
>   > recommends a prolonged course." This statement supports its use for
>   > both acute and prophylactic treatment of migraine. "
>   >
>   > Info on Robert S. De Ropp's book "Drugs and the Mind:"
>   >
>   > http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a\
>   >
>   > Goolker, P. (1960). Drugs and the Mind: By Robert S. de Ropp. Foreword
>   > by Nathan S. Kline. New York: Grove Press, Inc., 1960. Originally
>   > published by St. Martin's Press, 1957. 310 pp.. Psychoanal Q.,
>   > 29:407-409.
>   > -------------
>   > Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at frontier.com
>   > Wed Jun 1 18:03:11 PDT 2011 wrote:
>   >
>   > "As a practical matter, until the federal marijuana laws are changed
> to
>   > either
>   > legalize it altogether, or to legalize medical marijuana, or to allow
>   > states
>   > to set their own policies subject to federal rules, I doubt much can
> be
>   > done
>   > that is legally safe, administratively efficient, and medically
>   > effective. If the
>   > 2012 federal elections bring to office a Congress more conducive to
> change,
>   > there may be some better hope for legislative as well as medical
> relief."
>   > -------------
>   > As long as Sarah Palin, for example (she's blathering on as I write,
>   > on CNN), is regarded as a credible candidate for the presidency by a
>   > large segment of the US voting public, given what this implies
>   > regarding the mindset of the electorate, the odds of a "Congress more
>   > conducive to change" on the federal level regarding liberalizing
>   > federal cannabis laws are rather low.
>   >
>   > There is more concern among Palin's followers with assuring legal
>   > unregulated access to firearms, than legal medical or other reasons
>   > for access to cannabis.  Comparing the negative impacts of legal
>   > access to firearms, to the negative impacts from illegal cannabis,
>   > reveals a migraine inducing inconsistency in the rational application
>   > of public pressure and lobbying efforts before the US Congress to
>   > prevent abuses of government control over individual liberty, assuming
>   > the harm of the behavior that is a protected liberty, and the harm
>   > induced by rendering a behavor illegal, are measures of how much
>   > government control is indicated over the behavior.
>   >
>   > I am of course not saying that access to firearms should be
>   > criminalized like cannabis is, but that to insist on protecting the
>   > right to carry arms while not insisting on allowing adults to make
>   > their own legal choices regarding cannabis use, as astonishing numbers
>   > of people are jailed and persecuted for growing, selling or using
>   > cannabis, seems like a glaring inconsistency.
>   > ------------------------------------------
>   > Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>   >
>   > On 6/1/11, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com> wrote:
>   >
>   >> On Wednesday 01 June 2011 16:03:18 Bill London wrote:
>   >
>   >>> The essay below was originally posted by Susan Engle of the Lewiston
>   >>> Tribune on her blog at the Tribune website, and then reprinted in
> the
>   >>> Tribune itself on page 8C today (June 1) on the best of the blogs
> page.
>   >>> This is the most powerful statement I have yet read on this issues
> of
>   >>> pain, suffering, and relief (and medical marijuana).....thanks
>   >>> Susan....BL
>   >> <[snip]>
>   >>
>   >> The requisite knowledge to stop or alleviate lots of unnecessary pain
> and
>   >> suffering has been available for a long time. Being the sometime
> science
>   >> student that I am, I just happen to have a copy of the twelfth
> edition of
>   >> Hawley's Condensed Chemical Dictionary, edited by Richard J. Lewis,
> Sr.
>   >> The
>   >> Library of Congress number for this edition has 1992 for a date, so
> this
>   >> book
>   >> is nearly two decades old. Here are three related entries:
>   >>
>   >> hemp.   Soft white fibers 3 - 6 feet long. It is coarser than flax
> but
>   >> stronger,
>   >> more glossy, and more durable than cotton. Obtained from the stems of
>   >> Cannabis
>   >> sativa. Sources: Central Asia, Italy, USSR, India, U.S. Hazard:
>   >> Combustible.
>   >> May ignite spontaneously when wet. Use: blended with cotton or flax
> in
>   >> toweling
>   >> and heavy fabrics, twine, cordage, packing. See also cannabis.
>   >>
>   >> tetrahydrocannibol.   C(21)H(30)O(2). The active principle of
> marijuana,
>   >> a
>   >> hallucinatory drug. It has been synthesized and is available in lab
>   >> quantities
>   >> subject to legal restrictions. Animal tests have indicated that it
> can
>   >> retard
>   >> cancer growth and may also promote acceptance of organ transplants in
> the
>   >> human body.
>   >>
>   >> cannabis.   (marijuana). CAS: 8063-14-7. Its principle,
>   >> tetrahydrocannabinol,
>   >> can be made synthetically. Derivation: Dried flowering cups of
> pistillate
>   >> plants of Cannabis sativa. Habitat: Iran, India; cultivated in Mexico
> and
>   >> Europe. Hazard: A mild hallucinogen. Sale is illegal in U.S. Use:
>   >> Medicine,
>   >> opthalmology (treatment of glaucoma).
>   >>
>   >> (Yes, I noticed the spelling. The first is their typo, the second is
>   >> correct.)
>   >>
>   >> So, medical benefits have been known or suspected for twenty years or
>   >> more.
>   >> What has been done in the interim? Well, here's a six-year-old Web
> page
>   >> about
>   >> marijuana hypocrisy:
> http://cannabisnews.com/news/20/thread20844.shtml
>   >>
>   >> For more up-to-date information, here is the Wikipedia page for the
>   >> active
>   >> agent, tetrahydrocannabinol:
>   >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol
>   >>
>   >> As a practical matter, until the federal marijuana laws are changed
> to
>   >> either
>   >> legalize it altogether, or to legalize medical marijuana, or to allow
>   >> states
>   >> to set their own policies subject to federal rules, I doubt much can
> be
>   >> done
>   >> that is legally safe, administratively efficient, and medically
>   >> effective.
>   >> If the
>   >> 2012 federal elections bring to office a Congress more conducive to
>   >> change,
>   >> there may be some better hope for legislative as well as medical
> relief.
>   >>
>   >>
>   >> Ken
>   >>
>   >>
>   >
>
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