[Vision2020] evil in Tucson

[lfalen]

Great comments. Thanks Matt.
Roger
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From: Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:43:03 -0800
To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] evil in Tucson

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> So we both agree that both sides need to stop or tone down this violent biased rhetoric.I just don't see it happening any time soon though. Our society is based on it.
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> I don't agree with some, using this tragedy for further advancements of political agendas and to ridicule the right. Already, talks of gun control have been mentioned. Along with freedom of speech restrictions. How such speech as "rallying the troops" or "it's battle time", should be held accountable. Personally I don't like it, but don't feel should be held accountable.
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> When this story first came out, some on this site mentioned how the shooting was probably a radical christian, or how Palin should be held accountable. There were no theories of how this guy was nuts or how our society in a collective manner might occasionally mold a twisted or naive individual. How our music, video gamse, parenting, schooling, sports, backgrounds, etc etc, help mold each individual. Our hope is that each citizen has the ability to separate talk from action.
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> I believe Paul mentioned earlier that we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I agreed. When the Hason shooting occurred, the news media stated the same. Now though, since the alleged shooter is a white guy some have used this tragedy for gain. These motives are what I can't stand and feel helps divide our nation further. Never let a tragedy go to waste right?
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> My hope from this terrible tragedy, is that both sides will realize that this talk does no good. That they will show leadership and take the higher ground and stop the violent based rhetoric.
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> Matt
> > From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:50:26 -0800
> > To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] evil in Tucson
> > 
> > Here is a dilemma.
> > 
> > Either the doom and gloom rhetoric of the right works to get them more votes or it does not.
> > 
> > If it doesn't work, it is useless and offensive and should be stopped because it isn't doing any good and is offensive.
> > 
> > If it does succeed in getting more people to come to the polls, then you're going to have to explain how its influence stops there.
> > 
> > How does the rhetoric succeed in getting folks to vote but does not influence human action in any other way?
> > 
> > That would be quite a psychological story to tell! Please tell me how it goes!
> > 
> > I opt for the first option. It is useless insulting garbage that is pulling our country apart. Both sides should stop.
> > 
> > Or was your previous post just a joke?
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Well I know the media would be saying we shouldn't jump to conclusions, just as they with the Hasan shootings.
> > > 
> > > Question:
> > > 
> > > If rhetoric is to be held accountable, how can we do that with first amendment? 
> > > 
> > > Should musicians be held accountable? Video game makers?
> > > 
> > > The alleged shooter like to listen to Drowning Pool's Let the bodies hit the floor.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:58:31 -0800
> > > > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] evil in Tucson
> > > > 
> > > > Question:
> > > > 
> > > > What would we be discussing if the only thing we knew about the shooter
> > > > was that he was a foreign exchange student attending the University of
> > > > Arizona and that his name is Abdul Zahir?
> > > > 
> > > > What then?
> > > > 
> > > > Tom Hansen
> > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > > > 
> > > > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> > > > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> > > > 
> > > > - Unknown
> > > > 
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