[Vision2020] the shooting
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 8 19:39:27 PST 2011
Keely,
I have to send this to the list, you'll see why. This has nothing to do
with the conversation. I just wanted to point out that when I try to
reply to you directly (or as one recipient in a multiple recipient
post), msn.com rejects it. It appears that MSN is blocking the yahoo
host that I'm assigned, at least. I haven't gone sleuthing to try to
find out what's actually happening, but if you have trouble sending to
people on the list see if they have yahoo.com addresses. Perhaps
someone from that host sent spam and was temporarily blacklisted. Here
is a snippet from the email that is returned:
Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
<kjajmix1 at msn.com>:
Remote host said: 550 SC-001 Unfortunately, messages from 98.139.213.147 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list. You can also refer your provider to http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Paul
keely emerinemix wrote:
> In the interest of transparency, I want to say that I've heard
> indirectly from Dale Courtney and directly from Douglas Wilson, both
> of whom, not surprisingly, take umbrage at my characterization that
> people like them bear some responsibility for things like the
> politically motivated shootings in Tucson. You can look on Dale's
> blog, and I won't post Wilson's emails to me without his permission,
> but when I take my hits for something I've said or done in public, I
> am not afraid to acknowledge those hits in public. But let's be clear.
>
> I did not say that Douglas Wilson and Dale Courtney shot anyone.
>
> I did not say they are accountable for the actions of the man who did.
>
> I did not say they are guilty in the same way the shooter is, and I
> didn't say they specifically, personally encouraged him to do it.
>
> What I said was that people who say the kinds of things these two
> prominent local Christians have said, and say them in the ugly and
> intolerant, public way they've said them, are responsible for the
> climate that helps tip unstable, paranoid anti-government types over
> the edge. That doesn't seem too difficult to comprehend, and
> certainly wouldn't seem to be too difficult for these two men of chest
> to bear. Frankly, if Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has
> concluded that the atmosphere of hatred and abuse swamping the country
> these days has incubated actions like the shootings today, it hardly
> seems odd that those of us who live in a place where our neighbors
> contribute so nakedly to that atmosphere would remark on their
> culpability for it.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
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