[Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sat Jan 8 15:42:11 PST 2011


Can shootings like this be found coming from both sides? Give an
example of a left wing nut who did something similar within the last
few years? Try to do it quickly.

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Anti-government paranoia can be found on both sides of the spectrum.  If
> you go to his YouTube page (http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10),
> you'll see that he's put both Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto
> under "Books", as well as some others I wouldn't expect Tea Party
> sympathizers to hold dear such as Animal Farm and Fahrenheit 451.
>
> They'll trot him out before the cameras soon enough, and he can let us
> all know then.  And if he did do it because she voted for the Health
> Care bill, then I throw my weight behind you right now in condemning him
> for that.  I just have a feeling that this one is going to be stranger
> than it looks.
>
> Paul
>
> keely emerinemix wrote:
>> sorry -- I neglected to mention that the alleged gunman's video on You
>> Tube echoes the same paranoid, angry, irrational anti-government stuff
>> that Wilson, Courtney, and all of their ilk are as famous for as they
>> are for their status as "Christian" ministers.  That got dropped when
>> I proofread, but while he was clearly a lone wolf, or so it appears,
>> he was, as Wilson would say, eagerly suckling at the teat of vicious
>> right-wing extremism of the kind they promote.
>>
>> Enough said, but I think it needed to be.
>>
>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; godshatter at yahoo.com
>> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:41:01 -0800
>> Subject: [Vision2020] the shooting in Tucson
>>
>> I've tried a couple of times to send this and it appears to not have
>> gone through, but I want to answer Paul:
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for your reasonable words.  It's better than I've gotten
>> from Courtney on his Right-Mind.us blog.
>>
>> That said, I would remind you that she had been threatened before as a
>> result of her involvement in the Obama healthcare bill.  She is not a
>> liberal, but I believe that she is more progressive than her record
>> shows, primarily because of the extraordinarily conservative district
>> she represents -- one that's been rife with violent, bigoted rhetoric
>> from the Right.  I heard a lot about her from  my father, and even two
>> years ago he was aware that she and Rep. Grijalva (a friend of mine
>> from way back in the day) were targets of unreasonable and irrational
>> attacks from the media and from the entrenched Religious Right and
>> nascent Tea Party folks.  This was political, and even though the
>> video posted by the gunman says he's not a Christian, the instances of
>> "Christian" right-wing extremism in this country is alarming, and
>> increasing.
>>
>> I hold Wilson, Courtney, et al, responsible (do I have to say "and not
>> accountable" again???) because, as ministers of the Gospel -- Courtney
>> has been an elder in Christ Church and is a visible evangelical
>> spokesman in Idaho conservative/Libertarian politics -- they have
>> failed in their mission to preach and model peace, truth, justice, and
>> basic kindness in their public pronouncements.  Worse, they have
>> fanned the flames of a tinderbox-volatile sociopolitical,
>> religiocultural climate, often with astonishing glee and carelessness,
>> and are committed, judging from their own works, to calling simple
>> political disagreement "tyranny" that must be resisted by all
>> Christian  men.
>>
>> You're a good man, and if you disagree with me, you're not evil
>> because of it.  But surely you see that this hasn't happened in a
>> vacuum, and that a church leader who, like hundreds of them across the
>> nation, laughs at the idea of Obama's assassination and perverts
>> Scripture -- the "Obama Psalm" -- in spreading his hatred of the
>> President is a man who, like his "tyranny" frothing pastor, deserves
>> my scorn at minimum, and my indictment in all truth.
>>
>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>
>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>>
>>
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