[Vision2020] State Budget Deficits

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Wed Jan 5 11:18:59 PST 2011

I meant to add that this is really not the point. I'm willing to admit
that WE are at war. It is not a Republican War or a Democratic War it
is our war. The USA is at war, and that means all of us.

Given that, isn't PAYING for the war the responsible thing to do? So
far we've just put it on the "credit card," that is, "paid" for it by
increasing the debt. This is contrary to the values that Jeff
suggested elsewhere in this thread (or maybe it was a different
thread): "honestly, real life, responsibility, foresight, sacrifice,
and stewardship."

Wouldn't these values suggest one of two avenues of action: stop the
war or PAY for it? And if we have to increase taxes to do that isn't
that still the honest, responsible, real life thing to do?

I don't want to be a thorn in anyone's side but the combination of
preachy crap Jeff keeps throwing out together with the absolute
failure to follow that same advice makes me sick to my stomach.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I would have to guess that Mr. Harkins was referring to to the AUMF passed
> by congress and signed 14 September 2001 and H.J. Res 114 signed 16 October
> 2002. All silly rhetoric put forth by Our Hapless Leader and his
> droning minions aside, President Bush did not single handedly enter into
> these conflicts.
> g
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:36 AM
> To: "Jeff Harkins" <jeffh at moscow.com>; "Joe Campbell"
> <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State Budget Deficits
>> Jeff Harkins stated:
>> "Correction for you: The last President did not start the war.  The
>> Congress did."
>> Did I miss something?
>> I do not recall Congress declaring war, as required by the U.S.
>> Constitution.  I do, however, recall George Bush declaring a global war on
>> terror (September 20, 2001).
>> http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/a/bush-war-on-terror-speech.htm
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>> - Unknown
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