[Vision2020] For what it's worth ....... Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism

Wayne Price bear at moscow.com
Sat Dec 31 13:43:01 PST 2011


Exactly my point, we wouldn't need them either!







On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:

> Clue for Mr. Price:  That is why there are such gubmint offices as  
> the ICC and other interstate agencies at the federal level, ok?
>
> Seeya later, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Spokane, Washington
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Question:
>>
>> Then why even have states?  If we did away with that layer of  
>> government, look at all the tax money it would save. Just let the  
>> National Government  run government and that way everybody, no  
>> matter where they live in the US would be playing under the SAME  
>> set of rules.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:
>>
>>> In part, Paul wrote:
>>> “Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical  
>>> issues".  They are issues that are tossed out to the American  
>>> public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over.  While  
>>> they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to  
>>> distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think  
>>> we do.”
>>>
>>> Yes, I do suppose it’s a lot easier to look at issues like racism,  
>>> abortion, and gay marriage as “theatrical issues” when you’re not  
>>> the minority family unable to rent a home due to racism, and  
>>> you’re not the 17-year-old incest victim forced to carry your  
>>> granddaddy’s baby or risk death from a backdoor abortion, and  
>>> you’re not the lesbian at risk of losing custody of your children  
>>> born via IVF to your now-deceased 15 year partner because her  
>>> family never “approved” of the non-marriage.
>>>
>>> Yuppers – I guess for some, it is a lot easier to take the  
>>> position that those issues, while “important,” really are just  
>>> “theatrical issues” when one isn’t the target, when one lacks of  
>>> empathy . . . or when one lacks the sense God gave a billy goat.
>>>
>>> Not in my America.  I agree with Sue’s comment, “All rights and  
>>> even some privileges should belong to all citizens” and shouldn’t  
>>> depend on where in the US one lives.
>>>
>>> Paul also wrote:
>>> “In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties . . .”
>>>
>>> I guess I’m unclear as to how you define “civil liberties,” but  
>>> reproductive freedom & gay marriage both fit into my definition of  
>>> the right of privacy, which is an important US civil liberty.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saundra Lund
>>> Moscow, ID
>>>
>>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good  
>>> people to do nothing.
>>> ~ Edmund Burke
>>>
>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:37 AM
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism
>>>
>>> I sent this only to Sue, when I meant to send it to the list.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't negate the evidence.  For what it's worth, he claims  
>>> that he didn't write those newsletters that were put out in his  
>>> name.  Like you've shown, a person can be compassionate and still  
>>> be racist.  Being racist is not a black and white thing, no pun  
>>> intended.  It's something that can change over a period of years.   
>>> I grew up in a casually racist household, and had to unlearn much  
>>> of that over the years, as did my parents.  It's easy to fall into  
>>> that trap when you grow up with it and everyone around you thinks  
>>> the same thing.  As society changed, so did those around me, and  
>>> so did I.
>>>
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