[Vision2020] 2011 Military Post of the Year

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Tue Dec 27 23:15:18 PST 2011


The conservative response to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" seems to be: You can
fight for my rights but only if I can tell you whom to love.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks, Joe.
>
> You are absolutely correct.
>
> I have always been a supporter of gay rights and the repeal of "Don't Asl,
> Don't Tell",  As I had mentioned in other postings, I had known several
> gay soldiers during my career in the Army that were forced to live a lie.
>
> What better way to show support for these service members than
> participation in naval tradition, first kiss upon returning home from sea.
>
> "Free at last.  Free at last.  Thank God Almighty we are free at last."
>
> Seeya later. Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Spokane, Wahingon
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> On Tue, December 27, 2011 9:01 pm, Joe Campbell wrote:
> > In response to Tom Hansen's post, Matt Decker writes:
> >
> > "What's the piont Mr. Hansen? That affection can't be displayed?
> > Picture of the year for me is sitting next to the two crying children
> > of their dad who just got blown in half by an RPG. What do I know
> > though."
> >
> > But I don't think that Tom Hansen's point had anything to do with NOT
> > displaying affection. And I want to use your example in your response
> > to make a broader point.
> >
> > I know several persons who think that "first person shooter games" --
> > games in which players shoot other persons -- are immoral. Clearly you
> > disagree. Suppose someone not only tried to make such games illegal
> > but actually succeeded in making them illegal. What would your view
> > about said persons be?
> >
> > Now you might think that you've got popular opinion on your side but
> > that is not obvious. And even if you do, it is beside the point.
> >
> > The point is, Should your rights be held sway to popular opinion? Or
> > should what games you play or who you marry be up to you?
> >
> > I don't give a rip that you are disgusted by the gay life-style
> > anymore than you give a rip that I'm disgusted by playing games in
> > which kids kill their fathers. And I'm as gay as you are.
> >
> > Tom's celebration was about the military finally catching on to the
> > views of our founding fathers: state rights over individual rights go
> > only so far and people are best to keep their morals to themselves.
> >
> > Be disgusted. I have no problem with that. Just have the decency to
> > not use the law to influence your own personal opinions.
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> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
> - Author Unknown
>
>
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