[Vision2020] Left, Right, or Moderate

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 9 11:54:27 PST 2011


In my opinion, the best thing we as a populace could do this election 
season is elect more third-party candidates at all levels of government.

Paul

On 12/09/2011 11:16 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Childish but efficient, Mr. Rumelhart.
>
> Yes.  The text is from the "99" site.
>
> Although I strongly support the "99 Percent" platform, I WILL NOT 
> support them as a third party for the same reason Mr. Falen supports 
> it.  I, along with virtually all the late-night comucs, am having too 
> much fun watching the Tea Party tear up the GOP.
>
> I can hardly keep my excitement in check as I await Donald Trump's GOP 
> debate on 12/27, or as it renamed by Jon Huntsman . . . Donald Trump's 
> Presidential Apprentice Show.
>
> Note to Mr. Falen:  this does not mean that I would deny their right 
> to form a third party.  I simply would not support it.
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
> On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Being the uber-hacker I am, I copied the text for the first item on 
>> the list into Google, put "s around it, and came up with this page: 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/ as the first 
>> result on the page.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>>
>> *To:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com 
>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>>
>> *Cc:* lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>; 
>> Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com 
>> <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 9, 2011 10:13 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Left, Right, or Moderate
>>
>> Paul Rumelhart knowingly suggests . . .
>>
>> "I happen to know where this was taken from."
>>
>> And jus' where might that be, Mr. Rumelhart?
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>> On Fri, December 9, 2011 9:54 am, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I happen to know where this was taken from.  I support anything 
>> that would
>> > break the two-party lock down in our current system.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >  From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>
>> > To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>>; 
>> Moscow Vision 2020
>> > <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 9:29 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Left, Right, or Moderate
>> >
>> > There is not enough information here to form an opinion as to where 
>> they
>> > are comeing from. My guess though is from the right. If so I am 
>> opossed to
>> > a third party.
>> > Roger
>> > -----Original message-----
>> > From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
>> > Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:37:53 -0800
>> > To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com 
>> <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Left, Right, or Moderate
>> >
>> >> I copied and pasted the following six points from an activist 
>> website.
>> >> Do you believe this group to be liberal, conservative, or . . .
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> 1. Elect one man and one woman from each of the 435 congressional
>> >> districts in March 2012 plus six delegates from Washington, D.C., 
>> Puerto
>> >> Rico and the US. Territories. Voting will be online, possibly 
>> telephone
>> >> and at local polling places.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Between March 2012 and July 2012, these delegates will draft a list
>> >> of grievances. Candidates running in the primaries and general 
>> election
>> >> will be called upon to state their positions on the issues being 
>> debated
>> >> by the 876 delegates.
>> >>
>> >> 3. During the week of July 4, 2012, the 876 delegates will meet in
>> >> Philadelphia at a National General Assembly to ratify and sign a final
>> >> petition for a redress of grievances and solutions and plan a 
>> potential
>> >> new independent party to run in the 2014 mid-term election.
>> >>
>> >> 4. The ratified petition for a redress of grievances shall be served
>> >> upon all three branches of government and all candidates running for
>> >> federal political office in 2012.
>> >>
>> >> 5. The National General Assembly will then wait a reasonable period of
>> >> time for the 113th Congress, President and Supreme Court to act 
>> upon and
>> >> redress the grievances listed in the petition. Political candidates in
>> >> the 2012 election will be asked whether they support the petition.
>> >>
>> >> 6. If the grievances are not redressed and solutions implemented 
>> within
>> >> a reasonable time, the National General Assembly will reconvene
>> >> electronically or in person and organize a new independent political
>> >> party to run for all of the 435 House seats and 33 Senate seats in 
>> 2014.
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> >>
>> >> Tom Hansen
>> >> Moscow, Idaho
>> >>
>> >> "If not us, who?
>> >> If not now, when?"
>> >>
>> >> - Unknown
>> >>
>> >
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>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to 
>> change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Author Unknown
>>
>>
>>

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