[Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .

[Jay Borden]

Disagree.

 

While it doesn't make the police officers "less wrong", it does change
the picture for me by painting the protestors as being less helpless
victims and more of the instigators.

 

 

Jay

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:48 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .

 

Jay, 

I never based my opinion of this event on a 30 second video. The one you
posted is about 7 minutes longer than the first one I saw, but I think
it changes nothing.

The officers were not in danger and could have left. This was wrong.

Sunil 

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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 18:11:59 -0800
From: jborden at datawedge.com
To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .

So... are you now saying there is "more to the story?"  

 

Your video is a smaller sub-set of the one that I posted chronicling the
events prior.

 

Your video starts after the crowd of protestors has already followed and
surrounded the police.   (I believe the opener on your video is where
the students are shouting "fuck the police" while they have them
surrounded... which is about 2/3's of the way (give or take) in the
video link that I posted.

 

 

Jay

 

From: Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:33 PM
To: Moscow Vision 2020
Cc: Jay Borden
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Tell Us, Mr. Borden . . .

 

Here's one (15 minutes) you missed, Mr. Borden.  I am sure that you
simply overlooked it, right?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Uj1cV97XQ

 

"When Occupy Davis protesters began to be arrested, students banded
together, chanting the police to release the captives and for more
students to come support. Later on, the protesters sat down in linked
arms, entrapping the police along with the captive. After trying to
negotiate, rather than stepping over the students, the police pepper
sprayed the students point blank in the face. Many sources reports that
there are around 10 protesters, that is not true. The police only chose
to spray these front individuals sitting near the roads. There were
countless more peaceful protesters surrounding them on all sides! So
there were not only 10! This video was shot right before, during, and
after the pepper spraying and forceful removal of the protesters. I
stood in disbelief as I watched the violence. Skip to 4:05 to where the
police talks to the student one more time before bringing out the
canister of pepper spray."

 

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We should be happy the protestors were not carrying guns, a common
activity at Tea Party gatherings, huh?

 

Seeya round town, Moscow.

 

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

 

"If not us, who?

If not now, when?"

 

- Unknown


On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com> wrote:

	Jay Borden stated . . .

	 

	"I, however, am simply presenting the viewpoint that (right or
wrong on
	the part of the officers), there is MORE TO THE STORY than just
that
	initial 30-second viral video."

	 

	And just what is the "MORE TO THE STORY" that justifies pepper
spraying students . . . sitting cross-legged on the ground . . .
covering their faces?

	 

	Seeya round town, Moscow.

	 

	Tom Hansen

	Moscow, Idaho

	 

	"If not us, who?

	If not now, when?"

	 

	- Unknown

	 


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